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re: Oh No Vaxx Bros! They're saying we're infectious!
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:18 pm to HughsWorkPhone
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:18 pm to HughsWorkPhone
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Which makes it a personal decision as there is no benefit to others if you are vaccinated
Agree, but it should be a personal decision regardless, even if there were a benefit to others.
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:22 pm to lagallifrey
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Agree, but it should be a personal decision regardless, even if there were a benefit to others.
Regardless of the science....even if the vaccine were 100% effective at preventing COVID...it should still be a personal decision with 0 mandates.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:22 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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It’s not going to prevent people from getting Covid, but the patients coming in who have not had the shot have a hospitalization ratio of 7:1 to those who have. That is, patients without the shot outnumbered those with it sevenfold.
Almost certainly the bastardization of statistical analysis mixing numbers of post-vaccine and pre-vaccine
These are raw numbers of each category published online by the hospital daily. I figured the ratio. They do nothing but publish the raw data.
ETA: We’re both against mandates, BTW.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:26 pm to Seldom Seen
it says a lot about people who believe in this so called "vaccine" after the silly propaganda videos that came out of china in late 2019.
i wasn't sure what to expect, but i knew we were in for some serious bullshite.
fast forward 3 months to march 2020, sure enough, bullshite.
people still believe what these folks have to say.
why move the goal posts around so much?
why havent they tried to educate people on being healthy and taking care of themselves?
people cant see this?
buncha simps in this country.
i wasn't sure what to expect, but i knew we were in for some serious bullshite.
fast forward 3 months to march 2020, sure enough, bullshite.
people still believe what these folks have to say.
why move the goal posts around so much?
why havent they tried to educate people on being healthy and taking care of themselves?
people cant see this?
buncha simps in this country.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:28 pm to TerryDawg03
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They do nothing but publish the raw data.
They don't manipulate the data before it is recorded?
They don't record a heart attack possibility that stays overnight for observation as a covid patient because they tested positive?
They don't send a vaccinated person home with meds but admit an unvaccinated person with similar symptoms?
"We don't have any evidence that the vaccine caused the stroke" - So don't report it to VAERS
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:45 pm to Seldom Seen
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:46 pm to zatetic
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:14 pm to LSU316
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to tell other people it isn't safe to get or that it will kill you is just plumb stupid.
Unless you are the one that dies from blood clots, or gets Bell's Palsy, suffers neurologic disorders, and on and on....
Tell me, what number deaths or severe adverse reactions would be too many for you? 100,000? 500,000? That would still be a very, very small percentage. Right?
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:16 pm to LSU316
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186 million people in the US are fully vaccinated....if you take everything reported to VAERS it is like .03% of that.
So when they say the risk is low....it is low. If you don't think .03% is low then I don't know what to tell you.
If you don't want to get the vaccine that is fine by me....I don't give a shite one way or the other....but to tell other people it isn't safe to get or that it will kill you is just plumb stupid.
It is anecdotal, but I have not even come in true contact with someone that has claimed to know someone adversely affected by the vaccine. I personally know multiple people who have died unvaccinated.
I do not work in healthcare, but interact with a bunch of different people of different backgrounds at my job.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:32 pm to deathvalleytiger10
Do you ponder these same questions for people that die from COVID?
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:35 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:If that's all it does then the vaccinated shouldn't fricking care if I am unvaccinated or not.
The only thing the vaccines do is lessen symptoms and improve outcomes, but that’s a pretty big deal.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:35 pm to Seldom Seen
Of course they do, post this on the OT
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:48 pm to Seldom Seen
2 ladies on my tennis team who are fully vaccinated were diagnosed with Covid yesterday. 75% of our team are vaxxed, 25% aren’t. Since July, 5 vaxxed members have been diagnosed as positive and 1 unvaccinated has been positive. I’m wondering if those of us who are up vaxxed and have never caught it have some natural immunity.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:48 pm to BigJim
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But that ignores the fact that the vaccinated are less likely to have a breakthrough case then an unvaccinated (without natural immunity)
Great, can I get my unvaccinated with immunity card please?
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:48 pm to LSU316
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Do you ponder these same questions for people that die from COVID?
Absolutely. I look at both the risks for covid and the vaccines on an individual basis, whereas you have dismissed that there are any side effects other than a sore arm from vaccines.
Now, how about you answer the questions I presented to you? I doubt you will.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 2:15 pm to TerryDawg03
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It’s not going to prevent people from getting Covid, but the patients coming in who have not had the shot have a hospitalization ratio of 7:1 to those who have. That is, patients without the shot outnumbered those with it sevenfold.
A question maybe you know the answer to - two guys limp into an ER, both with broken ankles. They're asked upon admittance if they're vaccinated or not. One says "no, not vaccinated, and by the way I tested positive five days ago for COVID but I am asymptomatic." The second guy answer, "yes, I'm vaccinated, and by the way I tested positive five days ago for the virus but I am asymptomatic."
My understanding is the first guy will be counted as an "unvaxxed Covid hospitalization" and the second guy won't be counted as a Covid hospitalization, let alone a "vaccinated Covid hospitalization" - - - is this correct?
Posted on 9/21/21 at 2:22 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:This is the best answer!
When can we unite and go after China?
Posted on 9/21/21 at 2:22 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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The only thing the vaccines do is lessen symptoms and improve outcomes
You forgot lymphomas, sterilizing teen boys, myocarditis, death, etc.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 2:30 pm to Seldom Seen
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The survey of real-world U.K. data indicates, however, that vaccinated people with "breakthrough" infections could still pose a significant infection risk to those who have not been vaccinated.
Uh oh
Posted on 9/21/21 at 2:31 pm to STEVED00
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The virus will continue to hang around for the foreseeable time forward.
It will be around until they find a vaccine that blocks infection at a high rate.
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