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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 5/14/26 at 7:33 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/14/26 at 7:33 am to BayouBengal51
Another "earthquake" in Iran. This time in the Kerman Province.
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:07 am to BayouBengal51
What are we making of the fact that Iran seems to be letting China’s ships through the Strait? Does this weaken Trump’s leverage with Xi?
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:14 am to Peter Venkman
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:39 am to BayouBengal51
But Trump doesn’t have a plan.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:21 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:31 am to Peter Venkman
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What are we making of the fact that Iran seems to be letting China’s ships through the Strait? Does this weaken Trump’s leverage with Xi?
Unless those ships are coming to or from Iran, then what's the problem?
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:36 am to Ailsa
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China is looking to start surging oil imports from *ALASKA*...
Are they going to invest to double the size of Valdez? Because it's capacity is probably a 1/4 of what China was getting daily through the strait
This might be a great long term investment, but not a short term fix to offset the current issues
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:58 am to OldManRiver
I visited Valdez a couple times 6-8 years ago. It was operating at 30-40 % capacity and that actually did cause problems with the Alaskan Oil pipeline minimum flows. Democrates choked the flow during Obama/Biden regimes. They got a lotta unused capacity.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 10:37 am to BayouBengal51
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TRUMP: "Xi would like to see a deal. He offered — he said, 'If I can be of ANY help at all, I would like to be of help.'"
"Yeah, he did say that. And look, anybody that buys that much oil has obviously got some kind of a relationship with them."
"But he said, 'I would love to be help. If I could be of any help whatsoever,' he'd like to see the Hormuz Strait open. He said, if I could be of any help whatsoever, I would like to help."
Let's see if they step it up, then!
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:09 am to hawgfaninc
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NEW: President Trump reveals to @seanhannity that Chinese President Xi Jinping has committed to withholding military equipment from Iran following their high-level discussions.
Trump noted that while China continues to purchase Iranian oil, Xi expressed a strong desire to see the Strait of Hormuz remain open and free of interference.
"He said he’s not going to give military equipment, that’s a big statement... But at the same time, he said you know they buy a lot of their oil there and they’d like to keep doing that. He’d like to see Hormuz straight opened."
The full interview airs tonight at 9pm ET.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:12 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:21 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:26 am to hawgfaninc
I trust the Chinese helping out with the Iran thing as much as I trust the Pakistani's. China volunteering to help reach a deal with Iran will guarantee an extension of this shite out for another 2 months while people "talk".
Meanwhile, China will do everything it can in the background to send arms, equipment and money to Iran on the black market. The Iranian people will continue to suffer under a brutal regime and the Mullahs and the IRGC will get to secure their positions of power.
Meanwhile, China will do everything it can in the background to send arms, equipment and money to Iran on the black market. The Iranian people will continue to suffer under a brutal regime and the Mullahs and the IRGC will get to secure their positions of power.
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:34 am to BayouBengal51
Do I trust China? No
Do I believe that they will help us in a significant way? I have my doubts.
Do I believe though that they are growing more and more frustrated with Iran? Absolutely.
China is a stronger country when the Strait is open. My sense of pragmatism makes me believe that something positive can come from this meeting.
Do I believe that they will help us in a significant way? I have my doubts.
Do I believe though that they are growing more and more frustrated with Iran? Absolutely.
China is a stronger country when the Strait is open. My sense of pragmatism makes me believe that something positive can come from this meeting.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:10 pm to Peter Venkman
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China is a stronger country when the Strait is open. My sense of pragmatism makes me believe that something positive can come from this meeting
I could be wrong but I believe China views the US as a major market (if not their largest market...) for their goods and as such is not (at the moment...) willing to rock that boat too much...
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:20 pm to Trevaylin
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I visited Valdez a couple times 6-8 years ago. It was operating at 30-40 % capacity and that actually did cause problems with the Alaskan Oil pipeline minimum flows. Democrates choked the flow during Obama/Biden regimes. They got a lotta unused capacity.
Gov Palin's ACES legislation to stick it to "big oil", with extra taxes, made drilling too expensive on the North Slope. Her Lt. Gov reversed that when he became governor and why she helped campaign for the Dems to get him out of office.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:37 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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But Trump doesn’t have a plan.
his plan is apparently to fly around the world and beg china to help him with iran
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:57 pm to klrstix
quote:if??
if not their largest market.
if not for us buying their cheap garbage, they would be back to the stone age economically
Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:25 pm to hubertcumberdale
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his plan is apparently to fly around the world and beg china to help him with iran
Do you think it's inappropriate for a US president to have face to face meetings with foreign leaders, to discuss matters of geopolitical importance? Would it be inappropriate for a US president to tell a foreign leader that their support of a rogue regime in the Middle East is counterproductive for everyone?
Trump has already sent a clear message, via Venezuela and Iran, that the US is strongly opposed to China's support of militant puppet regimes in oil rich regions. That was the opposite of begging. Now he's searching for some consensus on whether and how this problem can be prevented from recurring. The result of these discussions may well inform US decisions on how how to proceed militarily in Iran. Personally, I think that's about the best use of foreign travel by a US president in the modern era.
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:31 pm to CitizenK
Look dude, I drove over Attigun Pass[remember ice road truckers], in a 30 foot class c rv. 24 hour daylight, the Alyeska pipeliners would check in on us every 24 hours explaining what's ahead and asking if we needed any help. Great week above the arctic circle. All the oil folks needed was to get rid of the Biden greenies and let them go to work.
And Governor Palin still looks great....................
And Governor Palin still looks great....................
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