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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:21 pm to
They are rapidly becoming a small arms country.
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:21 pm to
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If that is true, many analysts will be proven right that the Iran conflict was really about global conflict and competition with China.


Are we seriously still debating this? Of course it's about China, and Russia, and the US, and energy. It's incredibly disappointing how many people are susceptible to brainwashing. I hate to think it, but maybe suspension of natural selection for even two or three generations results in immediate idiocracy.
Posted by DMAN1968
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:24 pm to
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Mojtaba Khamenei has ordered the IRGC missile units to stop firing

No he didn't.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:24 pm to
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Iran lying and CNN pushing their lies. That is not surprising at all.
Posted by DMAN1968
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:28 pm to
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there is every indication that Iran will continue to charge them to exit the Strait

Show your work here.

And not some x link "on the condition of anonymity" bullshite.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:28 pm to
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The best part about what the media/Democrats/Trump haters are doing right now is that their comments claiming that "IRAN WON! TRUMP TACO'd!" — none of which are true — are going to reinforce his instincts that the U.S. must finish the job.

Trump hates to lose more than anyone on the planet and the fact that people are claiming that he lost is likely to push him back to action, even though their claims are not true.

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Try a little intellectual honesty so you don’t keep tying yourself in knots.

January 2026: “Iran is slaughtering Iranians. Trump must act. How can he abandon them? TACO.”

February 2026: Trump acts. “He had no right to bomb. It’s illegal. Reckless. Warmongering.”

April 2026: Trump gives Iran two weeks to reach an agreement or face more strikes. “TACO. Iran won.”

So which is it?

When he does not act, he is weak. When he acts, he is lawless. When he coerces negotiations under military pressure, he is surrendering.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:29 pm to
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No he didn't.


He is pretty spry for a cardboard cutout.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:30 pm to
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Yes. a lot of damage has been done to Iran, but few Americans know or care about the status of some Iranian petrochemical plant, important though it may be. The American people do have the common sense to understand tolls, however, and there is every indication that Iran will continue to charge them to exit the Strait. Moreover, Iran shows every sign of acting with a great deal of swagger on the world stage which it didn't have before. The sad fact is that, in a geopolitical sense, Iran is swinging a far bigger stick after the war than before it. I think we should have made them swing that stick in the dark by taking out their power plants, at a minimum. That would have made their gloats about their victory ring pretty hollow.


Are you still buying Regime propaganda? Iran is right now a battered country with no clear leadership and a drastically weakened military and industrial capacity. If the US chose, it wouldn't be a country at all with a few more weeks of bombing, may not be anyway when all is said and done. The swagger you hear is bluster and if the Iranian people are willing to finish the job, the regime will fall. If not, they won't regain their former level of power for many years, if ever.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 8:43 pm
Posted by TroutGuy
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:30 pm to
After having had some time to digest this, I can stomach everything except us consenting to Iran charging tolls to exit the Strait. That is outright humiliating to a great nation like the United States to accept that. The Marine Corps was created because we refused to pay tribute/tolls to the Barbary Pirates.

I'm going to assume that Trump won't agree to tolls after the two weeks is up, but, if he does, he will have led us to an unambiguous defeat.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:33 pm to
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Mojtaba Khamenei has ordered the IRGC missile units to stop firing

No he didn't


Once again, has anybody actually proved this guy is alive? Like fully functioning?
Posted by DMAN1968
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:35 pm to
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Once again, has anybody actually proved this guy is alive? Like fully functioning?

Nope. Like weekend at Bernie's without the need for a body.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:36 pm to
Two weeks to collect money and we can watch where they send it

IMO the biggest reason for this ceasefire on our end is to watch what they do when they’re not dodging air strikes. Valuable intel for when the ceasefire inevitably ends.
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:36 pm to
Another new account. Are you able to read or just posting your reddit filth here.

Nothing has been agreed to except ceasefire and tankers moving
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:38 pm to
Ffs another alter
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Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:38 pm to
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The unstated goal of America and Israel’s military operation against Iran has always been regime change, even if President Trump publicly denies it. A new government will need to provide basic services (power generation) and a source of revenue (oil production infrastructure).

We were never going to destroy all their power plants and oil infrastructure.

The “ceasefire” isn’t the end of our military operation. It’s the beginning of Phase Two.
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:38 pm to
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Ffs another alter


@suppppppaaaaahhhhh
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:41 pm to
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F** that. Bring them to their knees

Let's let this play out before we get into your dumb fantasies about how anything works. I'm proud that Trump has shown restraint and glad that some idiot like you has no decision making capabilities.
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