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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 6/28/26 at 6:40 pm to friendlyobservation
Posted on 6/28/26 at 6:40 pm to friendlyobservation
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Each day that goes on it feels like we're a step closer to a full scale ground war in Iran.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:53 pm to friendlyobservation
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it feels like we're a step closer to a full scale ground war in Iran
It seems like it wouldn’t be much of a war at all.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:26 pm to notiger1997
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:27 am to friendlyobservation
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The US could've wiped Iran's leaders out at any point but they didn't.
Really? You know this how, Mr. Insider?
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it feels like we're a step closer to a full scale ground war in Iran.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 5:30 am to BayouBengal51
Pakistan vs Afghanistan heating up again.
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Pakistan just launched airstrikes across 3 Afghan provinces (Paktia, Paktika, and Kunar) with Kabul reporting civilian deaths from the strikes.
This comes a day after Jamaat-ul-Ahrar, a TTP splinter group, attacked a Pakistani military facility in Karachi killing four soldiers and wounding others, which is almost certainly what triggered the cross-border response.
Pakistan has been running this cycle for years: attack on Pakistani soil, airstrikes into Afghan territory, Taliban condemnation, brief pause, repeat.
But the Karachi strike hitting an urban military facility rather than a border post is an escalation in itself and Pakistan's response across three provinces simultaneously suggests they're done absorbing hits quietly.
The Taliban government is already isolated internationally and now has Pakistani jets over its territory with civilian casualties to explain. This one has room to get significantly worse.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 5:38 am to Stinger_1066
From Al-Jazeera:
Pakistan says its security forces killed 29 fighters along Afghan border
Pakistan says its security forces killed 29 fighters along Afghan border
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Strikes come a day after fighters armed with guns and explosives killed three soldiers in Karachi.
Pakistan’s security forces have carried out a ground operation and air strikes along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border in response to deadly attacks, killing 29 fighters, officials have said.
In a post on social media, Pakistani Information Minister Attaullah Tarar said the operation was launched in response to multiple attacks by armed groups across the country.
“Three targets in Paktia, Paktika and Kunar were destroyed during precision strikes,” Tarar said on X, referring to three eastern Afghanistan provinces.
The Afghan Taliban government’s deputy spokesman, Hamdullah Fitrat, said the Pakistani strikes killed at least 36 civilians and wounded 163 others.
Pakistan has witnessed a surge in attacks targeting police and security forces in recent years.
Authorities have blamed the Pakistan Taliban, known by the acronym TTP, and allied armed groups for most of the violence.
It comes a day after fighters armed with guns and explosives targeted the regional headquarters of the paramilitary Rangers in the southern port city of Karachi, killing three soldiers.
Security forces killed three attackers and arrested another assailant, whom the military identified as a wounded Afghan national.
Jamaat-ul-Ahrar, a breakaway faction of the Pakistan Taliban, claimed responsibility for the Karachi attack in a statement on Saturday night.
Tarar said Pakistan’s latest operation along the Afghan border targeted hideouts and safe havens of the Pakistan Taliban.
The Pakistan Taliban are a separate armed group from the Afghan Taliban, although the two are allies.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:15 am to Stinger_1066
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Well it looks like the Qatari Kids are going to Doha to get their checks......errr negotiate with the Qataris and the IR. The day you see that Witkoff and Kushner are not the ones being sent is how you know the talks will actually get serious and an end of some sort to this ordeal is near.
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:31 am to BayouBengal51
I hope Trump has an ace up his sleeve in this mock game. Trusting the Islamic Republic just isn't in the cards.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:03 am to Auburn1968
No water skiing off the coast of Qatar this weekend for the 4th boys.
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Qatar's Ministry of Transport has directed the owners and operators of maritime vessels not subject to international maritime regulations to temporarily suspend all sailing and maritime activities until further notice.
The directive, issued in coordination with relevant security authorities, applies to recreational and fishing vessels and comes amid heightened security concerns in the region.
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:16 am to Stinger_1066
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Do you have a source for this? He did say he would "blow up" Oman but that was almost a month ago. Has he threatened Oman within the past day or two?
Finally found the clip of this from late last week in regards to Oman talking about fees to transit the SOH. Someone reupped the interview clip.
He said this last week when Oman first made the statement, then they changed their mind suddenly, then made the statement again. Then changed their mind again
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:25 am to BayouBengal51
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No water skiing off the coast of Qatar this weekend for the 4th boys.
That reminds me of this:
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:52 am to Stinger_1066
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Around 115 vessels carrying 2,500 seafarers have exited the Strait of Hormuz since the UN’s International Maritime Organization launched its evacuation effort in the Persian Gulf, US Ambassador to the United Nations Mike Waltz said in a post on X.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:54 pm to Victor R Franko
Yes, it doesn't take much understanding to know the US could wipe Iran's leaders out at any point as you just saw with the military capabilities. You really think Iran can stop US spying them? They never had the capability to stop a full scale run with our air force/navy.
Your previous leaders were not dumb enough to drop bombs on a regime like this because it creates more problems than it fixes as you're seeing now. A ground invasion is very realistic if you're forced to.
Logistically, it's much too large compared to somewhere like Iraq and they'd need to foot more soldiers than Iraq ever did. So, they'd probably have to hit key points and occupy certain areas to secure the Strait. No politician wants this.
If you have extremists who want blood and war because they're already barbarians how are you going to stop them from sowing economic chaos worldwide? You can blockade them off all you want with Navy that's not going to stop their objective which is to continue to make you suffer and the Strait is too small to properly secure it without occupying parts of Iran. They're not using battleships there because it makes them vulnerable to attacks and when you're rowing speed boats across the straight it doesn't make sense for the US to fire 50 million $ missiles to sink a speed boat. Which goes back to the point they're trying to make us expend resources on purpose because it costs millions to fire each time.
So do tell us how the US is going to stop these extremist factions within Iran right now who are already ignoring ceasefire agreements because you created a massive power vacuum in this country. They grossly miscalculated the potential loss here. Once midterms are over they're going to mass bomb them again.
How are you going to get around this? Create a new passage way through Oman/UAE/Qatar? The straight is too small for this to be realistic. Reroute oil elsewhere? How are you going to do that? You don't see the predicament this causes?
Your previous leaders were not dumb enough to drop bombs on a regime like this because it creates more problems than it fixes as you're seeing now. A ground invasion is very realistic if you're forced to.
Logistically, it's much too large compared to somewhere like Iraq and they'd need to foot more soldiers than Iraq ever did. So, they'd probably have to hit key points and occupy certain areas to secure the Strait. No politician wants this.
If you have extremists who want blood and war because they're already barbarians how are you going to stop them from sowing economic chaos worldwide? You can blockade them off all you want with Navy that's not going to stop their objective which is to continue to make you suffer and the Strait is too small to properly secure it without occupying parts of Iran. They're not using battleships there because it makes them vulnerable to attacks and when you're rowing speed boats across the straight it doesn't make sense for the US to fire 50 million $ missiles to sink a speed boat. Which goes back to the point they're trying to make us expend resources on purpose because it costs millions to fire each time.
So do tell us how the US is going to stop these extremist factions within Iran right now who are already ignoring ceasefire agreements because you created a massive power vacuum in this country. They grossly miscalculated the potential loss here. Once midterms are over they're going to mass bomb them again.
How are you going to get around this? Create a new passage way through Oman/UAE/Qatar? The straight is too small for this to be realistic. Reroute oil elsewhere? How are you going to do that? You don't see the predicament this causes?
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:00 pm to friendlyobservation
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A member of Iran’s negotiating delegation’s media team said no nuclear talks had taken place with the United States, even at a technical level, and that none would begin until Article 13 of the US-Iran memorandum of understanding was resolved.
Speaking to Iranian state TV on Monday, Saeed Ajorlou said Iran’s conditions must be fully met before any nuclear negotiations could begin.
Article 13 says that after the MoU is signed, and subject to the start and continuation of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10 and 11, the United States and Iran will begin negotiations on a final deal exclusively on the other paragraphs.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:08 pm to BayouBengal51
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Around 115 vessels carrying 2,500 seafarers have exited the Strait of Hormuz since the UN’s International Maritime Organization launched its evacuation effort in the Persian Gulf, US Ambassador to the United Nations Mike Waltz said in a post on X.
How long before pipelines are built to negate the Strait's bottleneck?
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:15 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:23 pm to BayouBengal51
Awww, someone was not wearing their seat-belt apparently:
#clickitorticket
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:44 pm to friendlyobservation
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Logistically, it's much too large compared to somewhere like Iraq and they'd need to foot more soldiers than Iraq ever did. So, they'd probably have to hit key points and occupy certain areas to secure the Strait. No politician wants this.
If you have extremists who want blood and war because they're already barbarians how are you going to stop them from sowing economic chaos worldwide? You can blockade them off all you want with Navy that's not going to stop their objective which is to continue to make you suffer and the Strait is too small to properly secure it without occupying parts of Iran. They're not using battleships there because it makes them vulnerable to attacks and when you're rowing speed boats across the straight it doesn't make sense for the US to fire 50 million $ missiles to sink a speed boat. Which goes back to the point they're trying to make us expend resources on purpose because it costs millions to fire each time.
So do tell us how the US is going to stop these extremist factions within Iran right now who are already ignoring ceasefire agreements because you created a massive power vacuum in this country. They grossly miscalculated the potential loss here. Once midterms are over they're going to mass bomb them again.
How are you going to get around this? Create a new passage way through Oman/UAE/Qatar? The straight is too small for this to be realistic. Reroute oil elsewhere? How are you going to do that? You don't see the predicament this causes?
Zero chance there is a ground invasion by the USA.
We don't need to invade to win.
They have two options. Comply or they will be kept in their country. Cut off from the outside world. Prevented from making more missiles. Prevented from making a Nuke.
We don't need to invade. Currently the objectives of this administration are met. Not my objectives. Maybe not yours. Mine include regime change. Trump doesn't want to pay the price for IMMEDIATE regime change.
That price is more missiles firing from Iran. More ordinance from us being fired. Israel stretch thinner.
The negative is ongoing military presence. We have the ability to do this forever.
Obviously nobody wants this to be the state of affairs 50 years from now. duh. And surely it will not be.
People here complain about not trusting Iran. I sure as hell do not trust them. What Trump is trusting is that if we have full access we can know if they violate the agreements that have yet to be signed and will I don't believe will be signed anytime soon.
I think what will happen is we keep sanctions on. They don't surrender and at some point maybe in 4 months, maybe in 2 years the regime falls and we get everything we want.
A coup or a civil war is the end result that realistically is going to happen. It doesn't have to happen but for that to be the case IRGC would basically have to stop doing everything that makes them the IRGC. Yeah, I will believe that when I see it for a decade.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:44 pm to friendlyobservation
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Your previous leaders were not dumb enough to drop bombs on a regime like this because it creates more problems than it fixes as you're seeing now.
Who are you with?
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