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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:21 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:21 am to
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President Trump on Israel and Hezbollah:

"Israel is fighting Hezbollah too long, and too many people are being killed."

"You don't have to knock down an apartment house every time you're looking for somebody. There are a lot of people in those apartment houses and they're not all Hezbollah."

"I suggested to Israel to let Syria take care of Hezbollah."

On Israel striking Hezbollah in Beirut: "I did not like that, I let them know that." Says the attack was "too much."

"If Israel can't do the job without killing everyone else, he'll do the job, Syria will do the job."

"Bibi has to be more responsible with respect to Lebanon."

"I'm not happy with the way Israel has handled themselves with Lebanon, and with Hezbollah."

"Israel would have been blown up a long time ago, had I not gotten involved."


So we would rather a government that is literally Al Qaeda/ISIS go into Lebanon and clear out Hezbollah? So replace one radical Islamic sect with another? That's like stitching an infected wound closed instead of cleaning it out first. It's just going to cause the problem to spread in the future.
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 7:27 am
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:29 am to
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:47 am to
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"If the Iranians are behaving like a normal country and if they make their country investable, then the Gulf Arab states may decide to invest in that country...Not a single dime of that money comes from the United States." — VP Vance????


I hope this isn't another case of "peace in our time," but my gut level sense is that as long as the Islamic Republic nutjobs are in charge none of this will mean anything.

Hope I'm wrong.
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Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 8:20 am to
My issue with 300 billion dollars reconstruction,,,,,where is the damage assessments. Supposably we targeted only military equipment with very precision bombs, and a few rag heads.

Reconstructing the military???? We need lots of pictures and damage assessment before the first dollar is spent
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 8:21 am to
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FBI disrupts major terror plot targeting UFC Freedom 250 event on White House South Lawn

The FBI and federal law enforcement have foiled a serious, multi-phase terrorist attack planned for the UFC event held on the White House grounds.

According to FBI Director Kash Patel, five suspects are in custody out of a larger network of 23 individuals under investigation.

Attackers planned to detonate explosive-laden drones against buildings near the venue to create mass panic. Directing fleeing crowds toward a pre-positioned elevated sniper team. A planned "second wave" involved an attempt to physically storm a White House gate.


IRGC terrorists or deranged Marxists?
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 8:25 am
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 8:33 am to
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The enriched Uranium is not valuable? I think the whole world believes it's mighty valuable.

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Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 8:42 am to
Why does he not show the same care for people being attacked in their homes in Ukraine?
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 8:47 am to
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Never mind all of the Americans the IRGC killed before the start of ‘official’ conflict this year Low IQ meme is low IQ


Not sure how this operation with no regime change makes anyone feel better about that
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 8:55 am to
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IRGC terrorists or deranged Marxists?


Drones will become a major terrorist threat given Ukraine's highly successful use of cheap FPV drones against Russia's invasion forces.

Effective anti-drone counter measures are desperately needed.
Posted by SloppyFrog
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 9:05 am to
Even though he has said many MANY times the killing must stop, Russia is not an ally of the USA therefore their actions do not reflect on the US. Isreal is a different story...and we actually have some say so in what they do militarily.
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 9:24 am to
Trump is a schmuck.
Posted by TigerTiger12914
TEXAS
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 9:37 am to
Israel is fighting for survival. They live in the middle of countries that want them destroyed. They understand that to survive they have to take the battle to where the terrorist are. These people are throwing missiles into Israel not caring who they kill. Families and kids and women indiscriminately. But you want Israel to fight with one arm tied behind their back.

Iran is sponsoring these people.

I am not Jewish or Muslim but i know that to survive where they are you do what you have too. The terrorist dont play by those rules you talk about.

Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:16 am to
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So we would rather a government that is literally Al Qaeda/ISIS go into Lebanon and clear out Hezbollah? So replace one radical Islamic sect with another?


His sentiment explains why nothing can be accomplished in that region. He’s just reviving some neo euro aristocrat logic.

We’re too civilized to stoop to such unrestrained behavior. But, since it needs to be resolved what is the harm in allowing the savages be savages?
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:21 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:48 am to
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But, since it needs to be resolved what is the harm in allowing the savages be savages


Syria will kill not only the current radical Islamist, they will ethnically cleanse out every Christian, Druze, and non-desirables they come across in Lebanon if they were given the chance. They are already doing that within their own borders. They would just spread that kind of hell into Lebanon and beyond with our blessing if allowed to do so.

We should not be siding with one radical Islamic sect over the other. What we should be doing is not working with Islamist's on any level if this were a just world. The west and it's leaders still don't understand Islam. You can't reason with it. You should not work with it and should sure as hell should not provide safety, monetary and material support to it's adherents. It's a cancer upon humanity just like communism and needs to be stomped out.

Aligning ourselves with a known terrorist, that was up until a few years ago wanted by the USA with a $10 million dollar bounty on his head is not a good look. I don't care why Trump installed him as the head of Syria, we should not be praising these people and saying they are the better option.

Trump thinks he is upset over the way Israel goes after Hezbollah? Allow the HTS to be unleashed on Lebanon and he will be crawling back to Israel to take out the new threat he created. The HTS will murder everyone not on their team in Lebanon.
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 10:51 am
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:30 am to
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My issue with 300 billion dollars reconstruction,,,,,where is the damage assessments. Supposably we targeted only military equipment with very precision bombs, and a few rag heads.


My issue with the 300 billion dollars reconstruction . . . is we left the regime in place.

You don’t do a Marshall plan for Germany or rebuild Japan when they are still run by fascists. You don’t rebuild Iraq with Saddam Hussein still sitting in power.

The 300 billion though has about as much chance of happening though as I do becoming president so I wouldn’t worry too much about it.
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:04 pm to
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That’s what all of this has been about from the beginning. It’s all about the uranium

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Once you realize that all of this is about Obama and the uranium, it all makes sense.

The entire point of Iran was to neutralize the rogue nuclear weapons created by the Obama administration, and retrieve/test the uranium to prove it came from Uranium One.

That was the mission.

All of the other stuff is secondary. The main objective is to neutralize the WMDs threatening the world, and then hold the Deep State traitors accountable. That’s what all of this has been about since Trump came down the escalator, and they knew it, hence why they have deployed all assets to stop him.

The uranium in Iran is the smoking gun that will take down the entire Obama administration. That’s what Trump is after
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:06 pm to
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This means that both Trump and Putin are hunting Obama, and cleaning up his global network of rogue WMDs. Obama offshored US technology/weaponry, and gave US MIL grade nuclear/biological weapons to the Deep State families. That’s what both the conflicts in Ukraine and Iran are about. Obama’s global WMD terrorist network, that the Deep State intended to use to start WW3 and implement total global domination.

Russian MIL literally accused Obama of crimes against humanity at the UN for the biolabs in Ukraine, and Trump has openly accused Obama of giving Iran nuclear weapons. Both Trump and Putin want Obama and his administration for trying to start WW3 with rogue WMDs in Iran, Ukraine, and perhaps other places as well.

The current global geopolitical landscape revolves around the crimes committed by the Obama administration
Posted by PeteRose
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:28 pm to
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Israel is fighting for survival.


Imagine having nukes and be claiming “fight for survival” vs countries who do not. Based on Bibi and Trump’s recent rhetoric, it seems Israel was more ambitious with this war than the US. Now Israel has to deal with the outcomes with Trump walking away and cutting his losses. I’ve been told FAFO, right?
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:36 pm to
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