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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:45 am to omegaman66
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:45 am to omegaman66
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The US navy has escorted quite a few vessels thru the strait.
No. They haven’t. They’ve “guided” several through but not technically escorted them through and total traffic thru the strait is about 7% of what it was prior to the war. It’s a trickle at best. Not even worth really mentioning to be honest.
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Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:46 am to JoeyP239
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Why is Trump still claiming there is a cease fire?
No one knows at this point.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:47 am to Nomad0369
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The only thing that matters is that Iran is denying the use of the Strait of Hormuz.
What matters more is they can't use the strait.
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They’ve proven that they can do that whenever they want
Also false. They can't use the strait. All exports are via land routes and at greatly reduced amounts.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:48 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:48 am to Penrod
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If Iran controlled the Strait they would be sending their tankers to China. They can’t because they don’t control it.
Nope. We stop their ships in the Arabian Sea or the gulf of Oman. Their inability to move ships in and out of port has nothing ti do with the strait of Hormuz. Iran controlling the strait is denying the other gulf countries from moving their oil.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:53 am to omegaman66
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Also false. They can't use the strait. All exports are via land routes and at greatly reduced amounts.
They certainly can use the strait. They can’t go much further than though because our navy will stop them in the gulf of Oman or the Arabian Sea. The real problem is the rest of the gulf nations not being able to sell any of their oil. That’s a bigger deal than Iran not being able to trade.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:54 am to Robcrzy
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The fact that yall think Iran cares about money when it comes to the US and Israel is laughable
What’s laughable is you thinking they don’t need money to fund their hateful proxy wars and fund their jihad. Hate isn’t going to buy material, weapons, and personnel who can’t feed themselves and families.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:31 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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What’s laughable is you thinking they don’t need money to fund their hateful proxy wars and fund their jihad. Hate isn’t going to buy material, weapons, and personnel who can’t feed themselves and families.
Okay we so blockade them indefinitely and they can’t fund their proxies. They’ll just keep the strait shutdown with drones, missiles and mines. We have to forcibly take and hold the strait of Hormuz.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:54 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:01 am to BayouBengal51
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Why is Trump still claiming there is a cease fire?
No one knows at this point.
What Trump is saying is confusing the enemy (so if you are confused you need to ask yourself if you are an enemy or friend of the USA), what Trump is doing is choking out the islamo-fascist regime based in Iran.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:25 am to geoag58
There are really two options -
The ceasefire exists for some strategic purpose and coming together of plans that is meant to bring about a better result. We just don’t have near enough info about what this could be.
OR
We have no idea what to do next and this is just a stalling option to figure out a better solution.
Your opinion on which this is largely rests upon whether you liked or hated Trump to begin with. Further trumps bombastic style makes option 2 seem potentially more likely as time goes on. However that’s just optics - patience is needed as both of these options are very possible given what’s occurring and would look similar to this point.
The outcome is decidedly more cloudy given the haze of current information. That created angst and uncertainty which no one likes.
I will add - early days our admin and military appeared to have a well coordinated plan. Something went amiss - and we have settled into something of a backup plan (if you believe this is even a plan still)
My guess is we (and importantly the regional governments) were surprised by irans willingness and ability to get some attacks in on their infrastructure and our anti drone/rocket stockpiles we’re getting depleted faster than expected. The ceasefire was in part to reset/refit radar, batteries, stockpiles, layers of defense etc.
The ceasefire exists for some strategic purpose and coming together of plans that is meant to bring about a better result. We just don’t have near enough info about what this could be.
OR
We have no idea what to do next and this is just a stalling option to figure out a better solution.
Your opinion on which this is largely rests upon whether you liked or hated Trump to begin with. Further trumps bombastic style makes option 2 seem potentially more likely as time goes on. However that’s just optics - patience is needed as both of these options are very possible given what’s occurring and would look similar to this point.
The outcome is decidedly more cloudy given the haze of current information. That created angst and uncertainty which no one likes.
I will add - early days our admin and military appeared to have a well coordinated plan. Something went amiss - and we have settled into something of a backup plan (if you believe this is even a plan still)
My guess is we (and importantly the regional governments) were surprised by irans willingness and ability to get some attacks in on their infrastructure and our anti drone/rocket stockpiles we’re getting depleted faster than expected. The ceasefire was in part to reset/refit radar, batteries, stockpiles, layers of defense etc.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 9:26 am
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:40 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:43 am to geoag58
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what Trump is doing is choking out the islamo-fascist regime based in Iran.
Then why haven’t they surrendered?
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:52 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:56 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:01 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:08 am to JoeyP239
[quote]Then why haven’t they surrendered?[/quote
It is a matter of time before the IRGC collapses from the bottom up.
Their mercenaries to crackdown on protesters were not getting paid and protests have started up again with no crowd control in sight
It is a matter of time before the IRGC collapses from the bottom up.
Their mercenaries to crackdown on protesters were not getting paid and protests have started up again with no crowd control in sight
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:28 am to CitizenK
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It is a matter of time before the IRGC collapses from the bottom up. Their mercenaries to crackdown on protesters were not getting paid and protests have started up again with no crowd control in sight
If we can keep the blockade up through September they are going to be on the brink. Patience is key here.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 10:30 am
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:54 am to Nomad0369
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The real problem is the rest of the gulf nations not being able to sell any of their oil.
This is completely false and not even close to the truth. You don’t have all the facts or are misinformed.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 12:04 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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