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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:06 pm to
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Congress hasn't declared war in 80 years. Take a lap.


And what’s our war record over the last 80 years?

Seems like following the constitution might be worthwhile.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 9:14 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:07 pm to
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Seems obvious the ceasefire is currently being used as a tool, but not in its traditional role.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:18 pm to
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Seems like following the constitution might be worthwhile.


Or…. You know.. actually fighting to win rather than with both hands tied behind your back wins wars.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:23 pm to
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And what’s our war record over the last 80 years?

Seems like following the constitution might be worthwhile.


Did Thomas Jefferson have knowledge of the constitution?

In 1805 he sent the marines to fight pirates in the Barbary War, without a declaration of war or congressional consent
Posted by TroutGuy
Member since Mar 2026
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:25 pm to
A couple of months ago our defense department was releasing statements like: "we propose to share the ocean with Iran's navy: they can have the bottom of it."

Now our releases are like: "100 missiles fired at us? The cease fire is still in effect - none hit their intended targets!"

Painful to watch.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:31 pm to
More reports of power outages in Tehran.

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Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:32 pm to
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Or…. You know.. actually fighting to win rather than with both hands tied behind your back wins wars.


Or . . . you know . . . follow the constitution and avoid humiliating and costly decades long “conflicts” that accomplish nothing. If the fight is necessary Congress will declare it.

We don’t have to be fighting right now in the Middle East. We could just leave. Let Saudi and UAE defend themselves.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:49 pm to
How are we not following the constitution?
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:01 pm to
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WATCH: Rocket and missile shrapnel is falling across parts of Kuwait as air defense systems continue intercepting hostile drones and missiles targeting the country.

Kuwaiti authorities say the explosions being heard are largely the result of ongoing interception operations.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:16 pm to
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Or . . . you know . . . follow the constitution and avoid humiliating and costly decades long “conflicts” that accomplish nothing. If the fight is necessary Congress will declare it.


Emotional women like you are why we fight with 2 hands tied behind our back.
Posted by bayouvette
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:46 pm to
Thread has become a shite show. The same people post the same complaints every 10 pages. Often saying the exact same thing.

The only true thing is not a single mother fricker knows what's really going on. Period..

He is stalling no idea why.
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
3128 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:52 pm to
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Thread has become a shite show. The same people post the same complaints every 10 pages. Often saying the exact same thing.

The only true thing is not a single mother fricker knows what's really going on. Period..

He is stalling no idea why.
This x 100. Idiots acting like they have a clue when they don't know anything whatsoever.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5988 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:56 pm to
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Emotional women like you are why we fight with 2 hands tied behind our back.


At least you can admit we keep losing wars. You may not like the reason we keep losing wars. But the reasons exist so we should proceed with caution.

The truth is we haven’t won a meaningful war since 1900 without a robust international alliance fighting with us and clear domestic mandate to fight.

When we fight largely alone we typically lose.

When we fight to depose a government and install a new one we usually lose.

When we embargo and isolate a regime we usually embolden its extemism.

And here we are contemplating a war we would fight without meaningful allies, with a weak domestic mandate, with the ultimate goal of regime change.

It’s stupid, no Americans should die for the straits of Hormuz or uranium dust or Israel or the house of Saud or Emirati Sheiks and we should leave the whole region to itself.
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:58 pm to
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next time you are in the corpus christi area let me know and I will buy lunch


The last time I was there was immediately before Harvey. I went there to look at the Alumina plant. Most it was plain worn out.

I miss my friend Robert Adler, Jr. RIP on his favorite day of the year, the 4th of July.
Posted by TroutGuy
Member since Mar 2026
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 3:18 am to
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3365 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:48 am to
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what we are doing now doesn't seem to be the follow through that many expected from Trump.


This is a good way to put it. We got off to a great start but can't figure out how to finish.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:52 am to
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10218 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 6:02 am to
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quote:We’re just seconds away from a deal, right, Trump?


You should ask his globalist cocksucker son in law


Trump is in charge, not his globalist cocksucker son in law. Everything that is happening is on him.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 6:06 am to
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If the fight is necessary Congress will declare it.


We lost over fity thousand brothers and sisters in Vietnam. They never felt it necessary. frick a bunch of Congress.
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