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re: Ocasio-Cortez, progressives accuse Trump of using socialism as scare tactic

Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:50 am to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112571 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:50 am to
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There are very distinct differences between Democratic Socialists and Socialists.




Jake_LaMotta in 2025: "Elective communism" isn't even close to the same as "communism"!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260190 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:50 am to
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It is amazing how ignorant people on here are. You don't even know what things are that you are arguing against.






You can blame the "Democratic Socialist" supporters for that. Even they dont seem to know what it means
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14486 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:51 am to
It is COMPLETELY appropriate to scare people about socialism.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:51 am to
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There are very distinct differences between Democratic Socialists and Socialists.


Explain them, since you seem to be the expert here.

Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:51 am to
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I'm asking you to clarify the assertions you made. Can you not do that?


It's already been explained and you still have zero understanding.

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Why do liberals always refuse to fully flesh out their propositions?


I am not a 'Liberal' or even a Democrat. You have zero clue about the topic being discussed. You have demonstrated this twice now after being told.

Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:51 am to
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Are you serious? You don't understand any of this.


I know. I wish I did. I'd love to vote for socialism. Can you help me understand? I'm a little weary of just trusting anything you say, but I have an open mind.

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There are very distinct differences between Democratic Socialists and Socialists.



Can you explain a few of them? I am generally curious about your position and how I can better understand it and you seem to just keep making fun of me. Do you think that's a good way to get people to come to your side? Or do you think that it's not even worth your time to explain it to anyone? Surely you can't expect me to just trust you without any introspection or question?

Did you arrive at your beliefs by simply trusting whoever told them to you without question?

If all you have for me or insults instead of explanations, then I have to question the tone of your beliefs.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 10:53 am
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:53 am to
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What did he call himself as president, or in any position in which he got elected?


What did Caitlin Jenner used to call herself?

Just because one person says or does one thing it doesn't mean it is true for everyone. You realize that don't you? What Chavez or Stalin did it irrelevant.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101326 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:53 am to
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I am not a 'Liberal' or even a Democrat. You have zero clue about the topic being discussed. You have demonstrated this twice now after being told.


Here you go NIH.


Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:53 am to
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It's already been explained


Link?

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you still have zero understanding. 



Is this how you came to your beliefs? Something is explained to you and you absolutely accept it without question? That is a terrifying proposition.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7627 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:55 am to
it could be like Sweden, Finland, Norway Etc. But tgat doesn't really help your point, does it?

You sure sound racist saying it only works in white countries. Shame.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112571 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:56 am to



We have dozens of posters here who regularly espouse Democratic / Socialist talking points and a whopping 3-4 of them actually admit to being a Dem.

This might be the biggest Gary Johnson supporter refuge on the internet
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 10:56 am
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:56 am to
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your position




My position? I simply explained that there is a difference between Democratic Socialism and Socialism. Neither are my position you fricking mongoloid. You don't have a damn clue what you are talking about and you obviously can't grasp this subject. This isn't my positon
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35465 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:57 am to
Can she just move to Venezuela already?

We have enough people in this country trying to make it a shitehole like South America.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:58 am to
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I simply explained that there is a difference between Democratic Socialism and Socialism.


You never explained that difference.

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Neither are my position you fricking mongoloid.

You are so smart man. I apologize. I can't keep up with someone of your caliber.

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You don't have a damn clue what you are talking about and you obviously can't grasp this subject. 

This exercise flew way over your head, man. You seem angry and incapable of rational logical discussion. I will leave you be.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 10:59 am
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:59 am to
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Is this how you came to your beliefs?




These aren't my 'beliefs'

You people are unhinged. This is why it is a waste of time to even talk about this. You are trying to assign fricking beliefs to someone who is simply telling you that yes there is a distinct difference between a Democratic Socialist and a Socialist.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:59 am to
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You are trying to assign fricking beliefs to someone who is simply telling you that yes there is a distinct difference between a Democratic Socialist and a Socialist.


And those differences are? Be specific.

Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112571 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:59 am to
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it could be like Sweden, Finland, Norway Etc


This was all the rage for internet Dems from 2008-16 or so. Pretty awful comparison when you take into account demographics and the fact that these nations are about as big as metro Houston.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260190 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:59 am to
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am not a 'Liberal' or even a Democrat. You have zero clue about the topic being discussed. You have demonstrated this twice now after being told.


Social democracies =\= Democratic Socialist
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:59 am to
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AOC will be out of office in 2021, yet DJT will still be president.
Would you care to place a little wager on this assertion?



(obligatory statement that I oppose 95% of her policy positions, since far too many people cannot grasp that "understanding reality" is not the same as "supporting its recipient")


Lackwit 1: No hurricanes in Louisiana for x-number of years! We are safe FOREVER!

Reasonable Poster: That is an anomaly. We will have another.

Lackit 2: RP supports hurricanes! Why do you hate Louisiana?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:01 am to
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This is why it is a waste of time to even talk about this. You are trying to assign fricking beliefs to someone who is simply telling you that yes there is a distinct difference between a Democratic Socialist and a Socialist.


So, to recap:

Jake_LaMotta: I believe there is a difference between socialism and democratic socialism

Nguyener: how'd you come to that belief? Can you explain it?

Jake_LaMotta: it's not my belief you mongoloidal idiot! Moron! You don't even know what it is!

That about sum this argument up?
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 11:02 am
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