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re: Ocasio-Cortez, progressives accuse Trump of using socialism as scare tactic

Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:41 am to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:41 am to
Chavez was once considered by many as a champion of "democratic socialism", you realize?
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:42 am to
He didn't do socialism right
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:42 am to
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Democratic Socialist don't feel socialism should be forced on people.


Oh. So their version of socialism is optional?

The individual mandate was against the principles of democratic socialism? Wealth taxes on the 1% are against those principles as well?

How do you implement your completely voluntary system?
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:43 am to
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Jake_LaMotta


My point























Your head.




Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:43 am to
I'm all for socialism with an opt out clause.

I'd like to see some real world examples of that in action, though.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:43 am to
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Chavez was once considered by many as a champion of "democratic socialism", you realize?


Irrelevant. Ronald Reagan was once a Democrat.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:44 am to
The opt out clause usually comes in the form of a bullet
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:44 am to
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Oh. So their version of socialism is optional?


Do you understand what the word 'Democratic' means?
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:44 am to
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Irrelevant


Of course it is. Well done.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:44 am to
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Irrelevant. Ronald Reagan was once a Democrat.


What did he call himself as president, or in any position in which he got elected?
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:45 am to
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Do you understand what the word 'Democratic' means?




Explain it to me. And then explain how Democratic socialism can be implemented without being forced on anyone.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 10:49 am
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:45 am to
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Nor the United States yet you guys keep talking about it and fretting.


Kamala Harris is running for President based on socialized medicine with a cooler name.

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is the “It girl” of Democrat Politics and she unseated a Democrat incumbent by running on a socialist platform. She then helped and endorsed a record number of socialist candidates across the country for congress.

Bernie Sanders, an avowed socialist (who calls himself a Democrat Socialist - I don’t see a difference), is running for President for the second time on a full on socialist platform and was recently featured in a starring role drunk singing “patriotic” Soviet songs with no shirt on.

If you cannot see a political trend that has formed, well, you’re crazy. If you think socialism isn’t scary as shite. You are not very bright.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:45 am to
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Democratic socialists believe strongly in democracy and democratic principles. They are by no means proponents of authoritarian government systems many Americans associate socialism with. Democratic Socialist don't feel socialism should be forced on people.


On paper, yes. It's still "mob rules" in which socialism is still forced on the remainder who didn't vote for it.

The natural progression of socialism is authoritarian, regardless of the door used to get there
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:46 am to
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Explain it to me.


It is amazing how ignorant people on here are. You don't even know what things are that you are arguing against.




Posted by 93and99
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:47 am to
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Jake_LaMotta


You really are a Liberal.
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:47 am to
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The natural progression of socialism is authoritarian, regardless of the door used to get there


No no. This time it'll be different.
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:48 am to
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It is amazing how ignorant people on here are. You don't even know what things are that you are arguing against.



I'm asking you to clarify the assertions you made. Can you not do that?

I'm not arguing anything. You are. And I am asking you to clarify those arguments.

Why do liberals always refuse to fully flesh out their propositions?
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:49 am to
He's also a cuck. Said on the OT that if his wife wished, he'd let black guys bang her.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:49 am to
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And then explain how Democratic socialism can be implemented without being forced in anyone.




Are you serious? You don't understand any of this. There are very distinct differences between Democratic Socialists and Socialists.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:50 am to
She can be the mixologist
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