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Obama approves killing of civilians in fight vs. ISIL

Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:02 pm
Posted by rtts48
Member since Jul 2014
350 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:02 pm
I'm very disappointed by today's White House decision to not consider civilian deaths when drone bombing ISIL/AQ terrorists. I know we hate them, but killing women and children (and men too!) is unacceptable at any time when there's a choice. I don't care how far along these overhyped bombmakers are in their overhyped plots -- go in their with Special Ops aka Bin Laden but don't bomb entire neighborhoods when you KNOW innocents will die. That's bloody murder. Screw Obama on this one.

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White House exempts Syria airstrikes from tight standards on civilian deaths
Amid reports of women and children killed in U.S. air offensive, official says the 'near certainty' policy doesn’t apply

The White House has acknowledged for the first time that strict standards President Obama imposed last year to prevent civilian deaths from U.S. drone strikes will not apply to U.S. military operations in Syria and Iraq.
A White House statement to Yahoo News confirming the looser policy came in response to questions about reports that as many as a dozen civilians, including women and young children, were killed when a Tomahawk missile struck the village of Kafr Daryan in Syria's Idlib province on the morning of Sept. 23.

The village has been described by Syrian rebel commanders as a reported stronghold of the al-Qaida-linked Nusra Front where U.S officials believed members of the so-called Khorasan group were plotting attacks against international aircraft.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:04 pm to
Only way to assure they get Assad in collateral damage.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

Obama approves killing of civilians in fight vs. ISIL


A 2nd Nobel on the way!
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:06 am to
Good.

It's time we take the gloves off and kill these animals.

Collateral damage is a part of any war.

Sucks, but thems the breaks.
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:11 am to
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Only way to assure they get Assad in collateral damage.
I wonder how you, or any other pro-war moron on here, would feel if the Arabs were dropping bombs on American towns and cities to take out your president? As long as the innocent people being killed are over there...it's A-OK.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:15 am to
shite happens. It's WAR.



The minute we became pussies and decided to get into skirmishes without a defined objective and a "do whatever is necessary for victory" attitude, is the minute we started losing.

Handcuff the greatest generals in world history and watch them be worn down when it's all said and done and never be able to claim victory.
Posted by rtts48
Member since Jul 2014
350 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:39 am to
this isn't 1944, we can kill what we need without hurting civilians. I also don't feel ISIS is a huge threat to Lake Charles (does anyone?). No, even killing 1 innocent person knowingly is morally unacceptable.

Like I said, do a Bin Laden to kill specific targets but don't destroy entire city blocks. That's negligent homicide.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:42 am to
No but i'd probably strap one on and blow my self up if I had to live in Lake Charles.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65015 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:28 am to
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Like I said, do a Bin Laden to kill specific targets but don't destroy entire city blocks.


If 1,000 women and children have to die to keep at least one American soldier/sailor/airman/marine alive, I am all for it. If a drone strike is the least risky option then do it.

This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 3:29 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:17 am to
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we can kill what we need without hurting civilians


You cannot know this for certain in every possible permutation of a conflict.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:35 am to
If they support and harbor ISIS I have no problem, b/c they are part of the problem.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:27 am to
It's their kids or my kids, so I say make it their kids. Those kids are the one being brainwashed into future ISIL fighters.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72051 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:34 am to
I shouldn't be amazed at the posts in this thread, but I kinda am.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54206 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:37 am to
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Like I said, do a Bin Laden to kill specific targets but don't destroy entire city blocks.


Get back to us when you study up a little more on casualties from the Twin Towers attack. Also, if the people of the countries being droned by us don't want civilian deaths then maybe they need to rise up against their government to show their displeasure. If they are not willing to make a stand on their own then these civilians could and probably will be a statistic of their own inactions.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:37 am to
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It's their kids or my kids, so I say make it their kids.


So now we're "air raiding villages and bombing civilians." 2008 Obama meets 2014 Obama.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13103 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:40 am to
One of the excuses used by the Pentagon for the lack of strikes against ISIS near Kobane is concern over civilian casualties, but if ISIS takes over Kobane all the civilians left will be slaughtered! What a mess!
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:41 am to
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Good. It's time we take the gloves off and kill these animals.

Collateral damage is a part of any war. Sucks, but thems the breaks.



yea he's become a good Republitard hawk huh. after arguing for years along with leftist idiots that collateral damage was doing more harm than any good being done, he's now all for it.

feel all hopey-changey yet losers?
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:45 am to
Why do they hate us? Don't they know we're the ones we've been waiting for?
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:45 am to
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ISIS near Kobane


Obomber being a bit curt with kobane is he?

maybe he could import some ebola there,, too, the Obomber becomes the Ebomber.

quote:

Why do they hate us?


perhaps it come from living out your entire life w/ sand up your azz... yea don't really know, you'd think being on the other side of the world would be a good deterrent but our idiot govt needs as many distractions as they can find.
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 7:50 am
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29423 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:48 am to
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Good. 

It's time we take the gloves off and kill these animals. 

Collateral damage is a part of any war. 

Sucks, but thems the breaks.
Something tells me you didn't feel this way when Bush was president. I'm sure you were one of the libs calling him a war criminal and mass murderer.
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