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re: NYT Opinion: The Rich White Civil War - A smarter look at America’s divide.

Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:32 pm to
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illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is against the law,


Again, by even acknowledging this term you are giving the prog filth scum legitimacy. There is NO SUCH THING as "illegal IMMIGRATION."

They are ILLEGAL ALIENS, or ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS, invading the sovereign borders of this constitutional republic. Don't allow the SCUM to use the term "immigrant" if they are not here LEGALLY.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:37 pm to
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Again, by even acknowledging this term you are giving the prog filth scum legitimacy. There is NO SUCH THING as "illegal IMMIGRATION."

They are ILLEGAL ALIENS, or ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS, invading the sovereign borders of this constitutional republic. Don't allow the SCUM to use the term "immigrant" if they are not here LEGALLY.
If you're going to base you case in semantics, you are simply wrong. The word "immigration" is not necessarily tied to the willingness of the receiving country. Illegal immigration is most definitely possible.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:40 pm to
Outstanding read.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:44 pm to
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Again, by even acknowledging this term you are giving the prog filth scum legitimacy. There is NO SUCH THING as "illegal IMMIGRATION."

They are ILLEGAL ALIENS, or ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS, invading the sovereign borders of this constitutional republic. Don't allow the SCUM to use the term "immigrant" if they are not here LEGALLY.


Agreed.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:44 pm to
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If you don't have knowledge of whether someone is an unauthorized immigrant or a US citizen how could that possibly disrupt order?


I don't know which is dumber , you're substituting unauthorized for illegal or your belief that illegal immigration isn't a problem if we don't they are here ilegally..


Imagine if someone robbed your home and the cops showed up and you were like "they stole my stuff and assaulted me" and the cops were like "I'm sorry sir, but they simply made an unauthorized removal of your goods, and that bruise on your face won't bother you if you just don't look at it, also, we're a sanctuary city for robbery and assault anyway. Have a nice day"

You would rightfully be livid.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:49 pm to
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I don't know which is dumber , you're substituting unauthorized for illegal or your belief that illegal immigration isn't a problem if we don't they are here ilegally..


When dumber is the question, a pretty safe answer is bmy.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:54 pm to
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I don't know which is dumber , you're substituting unauthorized for illegal or your belief that illegal immigration isn't a problem if we don't they are here ilegally..



I'm asking how it could possibly disrupt "order"? If anything unauthorized immigrants help ensure order by working low pay manual labor jobs on farms and AFOs.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:55 pm to
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unauthorized immigrants
You are such an NPC.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:57 pm to
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You are such an NPC


Illegal alien is an activist term and implies criminality
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69380 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:59 pm to
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Illegal alien is an activist term and implies criminality


their presence here IS criminal, so the implication is apt.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:00 pm to
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Illegal alien is an activist term and implies criminality
I mean, it is a crime (albeit only a misdemeanor.)

To your point, though, how often do all of these heroes here label themselves as "illegal drivers" or "illegal hirers" for doing things like speeding and paying someone cash to cut the grass? They're clearly destabilizing the labor market with their illegal behavior. And we should throw the book at their law-breaking asses...hard.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:00 pm to
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I'm asking how it could possibly disrupt "order"? If anything unauthorized immigrants help ensure order by working low pay manual labor jobs on farms and AFOs.


You know this argument is so representative of the childish left. Okay yes they work low paying jobs, so fricking what ? What about all the negative effects of ILLEGAL immigration that you and the other children on the left just pretend don't exist? I Mean you can't even man up and have a reasonable conversation of "okay they do this, but they cause that, so does the positive outweigh the negative?" instead you morons want to pretend the negative doesn't even exist.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:01 pm to
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You know this argument is so representative of the childish left. Okay yes they work low paying jobs, so fricking what ? What about all the negative effects of ILLEGAL immigration that you and the other children on the left just pretend don't exist? I Mean you can't even man up and have a reasonable conversation of "okay they do this, but they cause that, so does the positive outweigh the negative?" instead you morons want to pretend the negative doesn't even exist.
I would love to have a frank discussion about the costs AND benefits of illegal immigration. You go first. What are the benefits as you see them?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:05 pm to
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You know this argument is so representative of the childish left. Okay yes they work low paying jobs, so fricking what ? What about all the negative effects of ILLEGAL immigration that you and the other children on the left just pretend don't exist? I Mean you can't even man up and have a reasonable conversation of "okay they do this, but they cause that, so does the positive outweigh the negative?" instead you morons want to pretend the negative doesn't even exist


What negatives are there that can't be resolved by taxing them?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:06 pm to
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What negatives are there that can't be resolved by taxing them?


Thanks for proving my point even further


Moron.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125746 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:12 pm to
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What are the benefits as you see them?


The primary benefit is to business owners who typically see a 5-10% increase in profit.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44432 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:14 pm to
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Illegal alien is an activist term and implies criminality




Only in your little world would someone who breaks a law not be a criminal.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:16 pm to
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Illegal alien is an activist term


No, it's a legal definition, and has been one for a LONG time.

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and implies criminality


Precisely what it's supposed to imply, because crossing the US border illegally is, in fact, a crime.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65737 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:17 pm to
I’m not reading that shite, but the NYT is obsessed with race
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