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re: NY Times: latest UFO article - crash retrievals (Tucker reporting it, pg. 6 and 12)
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:55 am to xxTIMMYxx
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:55 am to xxTIMMYxx
As an example, there is space video out there of a ufo doing a 90 degree turn and changing speeds, while dodging what looks like a missile from earth after a bright flash. Scientists explained it away as ice particles being blown by some thrusters on the cosmonaut’s craft. It’s hard to tell, but it certainly looks legit at first glance.
https://youtu.be/er6fp9AKsUc
https://youtu.be/er6fp9AKsUc
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 3:01 am
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:57 am to xxTIMMYxx
Another thing to point out is that many of these craft can only be seen on infrared camera. Cannot see them with the naked eye most of the time.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 3:02 am
Posted on 7/24/20 at 5:18 am to ninthward
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2 Joe Rogan/Col Fravor
Commander David Fravor USN
Bob Lazare was a CIA disinformation operative.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 5:39 am to AUstar
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Also, unless the aliens are flying in on generational ships, they are bound by the speed of light which makes travelling between stars very hard and arduous.
Why would these ships be bound by our linear, limited understanding of physics? By definition these craft would have to operate outside our current understanding. We as humans love to believe that we live in the one time when everything that can be known is known and that it’s all exactly as we describe it. It’s a shocking amount of hubris.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 6:09 am to Jake88
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If it were alien where are all the advances
It's very possible alien tech is all around us. It's been speculated (and admitted by whistleblowers) that several technological advances have been reverse engineered from alien technology. Just because the government doesn't say, "Yep, we got this from aliens" doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
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If they are visiting, why? Anything they could possibly want to know or do, could, with their tech, be done within a week.
They could study the lifetime effects of various things on earthlife in a week? It seems you are actively searching for reasons to discredit all things related to UFOs and aliens. At the very least, you have made up your mind and refuse to consider any new evidence.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:03 am to Tesla
quote:Almost as much hubris as believing that aliens with unimaginably advanced tech would continue to visit our ant pile for thousands or even hundreds of years.
It’s a shocking amount of hubris
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:12 am to TenWheelsForJesus
quote:Such as? Don't give me stealth technology because that's not terribly advanced.
. It's been speculated (and admitted by whistleblowers) that several technological advances have been reverse engineered from alien technology
quote:Of what? We're not that complex or interesting. If real, they'd be able to model "lifetime" effects. Besides, supposedly they've been visiting for centuries. The third grade class at Mt. Sirius middle school completed its science fair projects 120 earth years ago.
They could study the lifetime effects of various things on earthlife in a week
quote:Youre doing the exact opposite and its not a better position to be in. For you everything equals aliens. There is no real evidence. Artifacts on high tech cameras are not proof of alien visitation. Eyewitness accounts are notoriously worthless, including those of pilots.
It seems you are actively searching for reasons to discredit all things related to UFOs and aliens. At the very least, you have made up your mind and refuse to consider any new evidence
Again, where are they? They've been visiting for centuries but haven't announced, so they clearly want it to be clandestine. Why then are they so readily visible to the naked eye or any of our tech? If alien life was actually visiting us, with the advances they'd need to get here, we'd never know and never have an idea of it.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 7:28 am
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:16 am to Tesla
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Why would these ships be bound by our linear, limited understanding of physics? By definition these craft would have to operate outside our current understanding. We as humans love to believe that we live in the one time when everything that can be known is known and that it’s all exactly as we describe it. It’s a shocking amount of hubris.
This has been a point I've always brought up. Why do we think we have the answers? Or any answers at all? We think we know the laws and rules of the entire universe, a concept we can't even comprehend, because a guy here on Earth named Albert said so. I don't know what's more off the charts, the level of arrogance or the level of ignorance
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:19 am to Corso
Questioning our known laws of physics is not proof of alien visitation although so many seem to substitute it as such.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:30 am to BoarEd
I just want to know if all this explains why we misspell the Bernstein Bears now? Thanks
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:37 am to olemc999
quote:That's how we figured out how to make tacos.
I’ve always believed that we have been reverse engineering alien technology
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:59 am to Jake88
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Almost as much hubris as believing that aliens with unimaginably advanced tech would continue to visit our ant pile for thousands or even hundreds of years.
What about an ant farm...
What if they live here “with us”
Couple of rebuttals to a few points made by posters
The Navy sightings were corroborated via direct vision (by trained observers), radar, and FLIR
Regarding the NYT piece author, she does pursue non-traditional topics:
Topics/themes that people should prepare for:
A deeper dive into consciousness - be prepared to consider that our conciousness is being broadcast from somewhere else. Our bodies are “radios” that recieve the signal. The signal is always there even when the radio is gone.
That said,
Much of the “UFO“ research at SRI (Stanford) dealt with remote viewing (projecting consciousness outside of the body to different locales/times)
Many people who report being abducted recount entities referring to humans as “containers”
Interestingly, this aligns with many spiritual system that argue that our material world is a facade. It is a school for the soul and “these times are meant to challenge souls...”
We get glimpses of source during near death experiences, spiritual experiences and use of psychedelics (the radio filter is turned off and you return to source for a while). At death, you return to “the great gig in the sky...“
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:01 am to theunknownknight
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I just want to know if all this explains why we misspell the Bernstein Bears now? Thanks
I've never given the whole Mandella affect thing much thought. But if you're looking for an explanation to that, I doubt you'll find it in UFOs. If a craft is able to move through different dimensions, I would think that things may change for the UFOnaut as they find themselves in a new timeline, but I don't see how that would change things for the rest of is because we haven't moved through different dimensions. Only the UFO has.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:04 am to BoarEd
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I've never given the whole Mandella affect thing much thought. But if you're looking for an explanation to that, I doubt you'll find it in UFOs. If a craft is able to move through different dimensions, I would think that things may change for the UFOnaut as they find themselves in a new timeline, but I don't see how that would change things for the rest of is because we haven't moved through different dimensions. Only the UFO has.
If beings can time travel who's to say we aren't having our past accidentally tweaked with? Like a mom alien brought her kid here with her because "it was bring your kid to work day" and the kid was really into the Bernstein bears and wanted to meet the creators and mommy mucked something up?
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:11 am to ThinePreparedAni
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We get glimpses of source during near death experiences, spiritual experiences and use of psychedelics (the radio filter is turned off and you return to source for a while). At death, you return to “the great gig in the sky...“
After having my own near death experience, I began to study this phenomena extensively. I've read damn near every account you can find online of people that have experienced this. This stuff has merit, imo. The accounts across the entire world are very similar and this is regardless of the experience's cultural upbringing. The experiencers describe different things, but the themes are almost always the same.
People think this stuff is "new age" mumbo jumbo, but that isn't true either. The Book of Enoch describes the same place these near death experiencers travel to, imo. As does the Pistis Sophia. These concepts and this knowledge has been around for thousands of years.
I'll drop this link for anyone who may be interested in reading about near death experiences. This is from the Near Death Experience Research Forum. NDERF
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:15 am to Jake88
You don't believe in beings from space?
Go watch the joe Rogan interviews
Go watch the joe Rogan interviews
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:15 am to ThinePreparedAni
quote:How can someone be trained to observe something that's never been observed. And, if they observe something odd, why is the leap to aliens or interdimensional entities made? How is that proof? Why not examine known terrestrial reasons or poorly understood terrestrial phenomena?
The Navy sightings were corroborated via direct vision (by trained observers), radar, and FLIR
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:16 am to theunknownknight
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If beings can time travel who's to say we aren't having our past accidentally tweaked with?
Could be I suppose.
Except, how does that change someone's name, or make it so that New Zealand is in a different physical location than it used to be?
I've never bought in to any of that stuff personally.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:17 am to Jake88
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And, if they observe something odd, why is the leap to aliens or interdimensional entities made?
You're being dishonest. I don't think that claim has been made even once in this thread. This is a strawman argument and it begs your motivation for being in this thread.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 8:19 am
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:20 am to BoarEd
quote:Sounds biological to me. Neurotransmitter function/dysfunction. People experience heart attacks, strokes, cancer and hallucinations in similar manners across the globe as well.
The accounts across the entire world are very similar and this is regardless of the experience's cultural upbringing. The experiencers describe different things, but the themes are almost always the same
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