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re: NY Times ... ‘happiest of all’ American wives are ‘religious conservatives.’

Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:57 pm to
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Because life is despair, for the most part. Religion is like a bandaid in that regard.

It all ends one day. Nobody's going to meet a higher maker. Nobody is getting to see their loved ones in an afterlife. It just ends. I think.
That's a lot of faith you have.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:00 pm to
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"It turns out that the happiest of all wives in America are religious conservatives,


I believe this because some of the most calmest, kind hearted and peaceful people I know are regular church goers that my parents are friends with and some people I knew in college. Strikes me as Mike Pence types that you just can't find it in you to hate completely.

However, I know a few swinging couples that are also happily married to each other and have different girlfriends and boyfriends. But the thing is that a few of them are also occasional church goers and still practice christianity and fidelity to God and Jesus christ himself. Like 4-6 sundays every 4-5 months.

Just confounds the brain.
Posted by Usafgiles
North Augusta, SC
Member since Oct 2009
1904 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:02 pm to
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Just confounds the brain.


Are you saying that some Christians are hypocrites? Tell me more.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:03 pm to
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Just confounds the brain.

it shouldn't. people are just wired differently about all sorts of things

just like i know some genuinely happy people who are also very religious and on their 3rd/4th marriage

religion has a place (even for the non-religious) but the problem is when you allow it to try to be too universal, especially in ancillary areas.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:03 pm to
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Because life is despair, for the most part. Religion is like a bandaid in that regard.

It all ends one day. Nobody's going to meet a higher maker. Nobody is getting to see their loved ones in an afterlife. It just ends. I think.


And this is an extremely depressing and unmotivating thing to hear.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6494 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:05 pm to
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People with no purpose, no meaning, and no hope tend to fall into despair.


"What's it say about life, hmm? You gotta get together, tell yourself stories that violate every law of the universe just to get through the goddamn day. Nah. What's that say about your reality, Marty?"
-Rust Cohle True Detective Season 1

"There are two ways to view the stars, as they really are, or as we might wish them to be."
-Carl Sagan Cosmos: A Personal Voyage
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:07 pm to
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And this is an extremely depressing and unmotivating thing to hear.

depends. you can flip it, just go with the whole "you only have a limited time on earth" meme and it becomes a life changer
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:08 pm to
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it's not perfectly applicable there (b/c he's obviously lying) but the pathology of lying about that was good enough

i've just been waiting to use that since yesterday but i've been busy with work



I'm not saying that guy is telling the truth about unhappy girlfriends as he is a dirty liberal after all that just bashed religious conservatives and I hate that.

But his responses are typical of a pattern on this website being that men get angry when a poster shares information about sexual matters or sexual characteristics in their own lives.

Like for example, how many women he's had sex with, how attractive they are or how big his dick size is.

The latter being a prime example that men won't get angry and don't reply or vote when a poster says his dick is smaller or just about average but when one guy says that his dick is big, he gets downvoted and lots of scornful negative replies.

It's just fascinating to watch. It's like slut shaming in reverse for men.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:08 pm to
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Are you saying that some Christians are hypocrites? Tell me more.



I would say some Christians struggle.

I am atheist. But, I can certainly understand that someone may simply go through struggles and "fall away" from what they perceive to be their "belief".

I'll not denigrate them for the times they are on the "believer" path and I'll not celebrate when they "fall off". If they come to the position that I have, I'll treat them exactly as I will if they come to a more thorough "belief"....like humans who I hope are happy and , so long as they behave in a likable, respectable way, will be liked and respected.

"We" don't need to prevail. It truly CAN be a win - win relationship.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 5:10 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41643 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:09 pm to
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"What's it say about life, hmm? You gotta get together, tell yourself stories that violate every law of the universe just to get through the goddamn day. Nah. What's that say about your reality, Marty?"
-Rust Cohle True Detective Season 1
Ironically, if God doesn't exist, there's no basis for the reality we experience.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:10 pm to
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Ironically, if God doesn't exist, there's no basis for the reality we experience.


We disagree and I still love you
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19092 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:10 pm to
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The latter being a prime example that men won't get angry and don't reply or vote when a poster says his dick is smaller or just about average but when one guy says that his dick is big, he gets downvoted and lots of scornful negative replies.


It’s insecure behavior.

That’s why people downvote it.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:11 pm to
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You can’t actually have any form of a discussion with him


He’s more interesting when he posts using his alter.
Posted by Usafgiles
North Augusta, SC
Member since Oct 2009
1904 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:12 pm to
I'm not celebrating the fall of anyone, just pointing out that some people attend church because of societal pressures and to appear as an upstanding citizen. I have never criticized anyone for truly having faith. The world can be a tough place, so do whatever helps you get through it and prosper.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:13 pm to
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Sure you can, but you're only going to get what you put in. If you give no effort, don't expect any more from me.


Unless it’s about defending pedos, right Bob?
Posted by oldtimefootball
Winnfield La
Member since Feb 2013
434 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:13 pm to
Sentrius, "Swinging couples" are not practicing Christians. They may go to church occasionally but apparently they aren't learning anything. They need to look in the bible for answers to questions about morality because too many preachers today don't preach about sin anymore.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41643 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:21 pm to
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We disagree and I still love you
I appreciate the kindness but I'm serious. In a materialistic, naturistic worldview where there is no (Biblical) God, there is no basis for expecting uniformity in nature (how does chaos and randomness produce order?) necessary for scientific study and discovery; there's no basis for laws of logic and reason, or other immaterial principles; and there is no basis for moral absolutes that people generally agree exist to one degree or another, among other things.

We do know things. We learn things. We experience things and can confirm our experience is valid and not illusory. We reason and abide by the seemingly universal principles of logic, such as non-contradiction. We know (generally) right from wrong and understand it in a fundamental sense. These things should not be possible in an atheistic world where the only things that exist are matter, moving around randomly in the universe with no purpose. We shouldn't be able to "know" anything, at least for certain, because all we have is our limited experience based on chemical reactions in our own minds. So yeah, if God doesn't exist, we can't know anything.

We all live within the confines of the Christian worldview, even if we don't know it or agree with it.

ETA:
Thank you for being gracious
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 5:22 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:21 pm to
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It’s insecure behavior.

That’s why people downvote it.


What about when it's relevant to the topic?

Also, sorry but the idea that it can only look not insecure when the poster states that it's small or just about average just strikes me as insecurity from the voters themselves. Intentionally depreciating yourself to not get angry responses just strikes me as stupid and actually insecure in itself.

Some guys have big dicks like some guys have average or smaller dicks and all of that is nothing to be outraged about.

The left complains about body shaming and that's something that legit can be considered body shaming and that is something I will never do.
Posted by Usafgiles
North Augusta, SC
Member since Oct 2009
1904 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:25 pm to
I'm not attacking your world view, but how do you explain the presence of many of these things prior the spread of Christianity?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6494 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:26 pm to
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In a materialistic, naturistic worldview where there is no (Biblical) God, there is no basis for expecting uniformity in nature (how does chaos and randomness produce order?) necessary for scientific study and discovery


The first, SECOND and third laws of thermodynamics say otherwise

The Physics of Life
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 5:37 pm
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