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re: NY Post cover: Trump hits Iran with a Lovebomb
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:48 am to BTROleMisser
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:48 am to BTROleMisser
If this deal ticked all of the boxes then this administration would be "oppressive over reach" and "overbearing colonization", breaking every international law.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:51 am to Great Plains Drifter
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Time will work its wonders as usual to see how good / bad a “deal” this ends up being. If Iran, under the Islamic Republic regime becomes some tolerable nation, willing to do business in good faith and generally supporting peace in the region and the world, if Hezbollah and other terror proxies dry up and whither away, if the Islamic Republic puts its focus on a better life for the Iranian people…..absolutely wonderful.
“Dr. Strangelove: or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Original Obama/Iran Deal”
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:53 am to Sams Crow
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If this deal ticked all of the boxes then this administration would be "oppressive over reach" and "overbearing colonization", breaking every international law.
This is a level of cope I didn't think was possible
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:54 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:
Here we go.
This is going to be amazing to watch unfold.
If the line is "this isn't the real deal" that means they couldn't think of good spin yet to proliferate online through the echo chamber.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 7:55 am
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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If the line is "this isn't the real deal"
And whats incredible is the if its not the deal, the admin is letting the tail wag the dog.
They could easily call a presser and read the 14 points, putting the fake deal to bed, but they haven't. Even if its not the real deal, the story is already told and no matter how good the real one is, its going to get mitigated by the false one.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:10 am to BTROleMisser
You think this deal was worth the war, and its effects, in the first place?
If I were to tell you in January that we are going to war with Iran and that:
- we will have bases destroyed
- billion dollar radar systems destroyed
- spend $100B on munitions
- have personnel killed
- Straits effectively closed
- cost of goods and gas go up…
But,
- we settle it by getting the Straits open to pre-war status
- regime remains in place
- Iran promises to be nice
- We, and others, pay at least $300B to the regime we went to war with
- the people we were “protecting” are still under threat.
That sound like it was worth it all?
Oh and by the way, we have further alienated ourselves from virtually every previous ally on earth.
If I were to tell you in January that we are going to war with Iran and that:
- we will have bases destroyed
- billion dollar radar systems destroyed
- spend $100B on munitions
- have personnel killed
- Straits effectively closed
- cost of goods and gas go up…
But,
- we settle it by getting the Straits open to pre-war status
- regime remains in place
- Iran promises to be nice
- We, and others, pay at least $300B to the regime we went to war with
- the people we were “protecting” are still under threat.
That sound like it was worth it all?
Oh and by the way, we have further alienated ourselves from virtually every previous ally on earth.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:14 am to joshnorris14
Trump is so full of shite.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:15 am to Lsut81
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They could easily call a presser and read the 14 points, putting the fake deal to bed, but they haven't. Even if its not the real deal, the story is already told and no matter how good the real one is, its going to get mitigated by the false one.
Yes. Im curious what happens now with how much vitriol the 14 points posted is getting
Tinfoil hat SFP is worried we back channel with Israel to frick shite up hoping Iran responds so they can call it off
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:34 am to SlowFlowPro
This is rich. Had he sent in troops and throttled the regime, leaving a decimated economy and a power vacuum in an Islamist cesspool turned to rubble, you would still be here bitching. Had he done nothing, letting an Iranian revolution slip through our fingers and human rights atrocities go unanswered, you'd still be here bitching. The sole metric for your displeasure is Trump.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:40 am to Vacherie Saint
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This is rich. Had he sent in troops and throttled the regime, leaving a decimated economy and a power vacuum in an Islamist cesspool turned to rubble, you would still be here bitching. Had he done nothing, letting an Iranian revolution slip through our fingers and human rights atrocities go unanswered, you'd still be here bitching. The sole metric for your displeasure is Trump.
He fricked up by starting this war, as I said in the first place. All you're doing it describing the quagmire I said this war would create.
You don't get to pretend this is a great deal because the alternative was worse, when both, bad options were caused by the mistake of starting this war. All that I have to do is to maintain my original position that starting this war as a bad idea. Just because you supported it and are coping trying to save face (for yourself and Trump) doesn't change anything (other than possibly the respect people have for you, watching you flail about irrationally).
quote:
To "win" we had to do that
But we still probably wouldn't win
Which is why this pivot by the fanboys is so funny. They supported the neocon starting of the war and midstream, once it became clear we can't win, pivoted to pretending they were anti-neocon and talking shite to the people who still supported the conflict. The dishonesty and cognitive dissonance has been INCREDIBLE to watch.
The weird part is that the usually Trump admin strategy of never declaring a goal and flooding the zone with many potential goals, so they can claim victory however the end unfolds, doesn't seem to work with this deal. This deal doesn't seem to achieve any of the goals the admin flooded the zone with.
I also preemptively described your cope earlier today.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:42 am to SlowFlowPro
I stand by what I said. Had he done nothing, you would 100% be here, criticizing him for it.
100%. And everyone here knows it.
100%. And everyone here knows it.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:43 am to Vacherie Saint
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Had he done nothing, you would 100% be here, criticizing him for it.
"Nothing" as in not starting the war?
Or "Nothing" as in not making a bad decision to start the war worse by putting boots on the ground?
I said a bad deal (which this appears to be) is better than boots on the ground or regime change, but that is still underneath my consistent stance that starting this war was stupid in the first place.
Do you think starting this war was smart, with full hindsight of what ended up happening and this deal?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
He could've cured cancer and you'd bitch
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:47 am to ArHog
I'm not bitching, though.
Do you think starting this war was smart, with full hindsight of what ended up happening and this deal?
Do you think starting this war was smart, with full hindsight of what ended up happening and this deal?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I love that the plan is to release it on a holiday Friday.
Yesterday he was doing the "the deal hasn't been released yet" cope to avoid being public
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Do you think starting this war was smart, with full hindsight of what ended up happening and this deal?
You have zero evidence of what's in the deal retard.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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Tinfoil hat SFP is worried we back channel with Israel to frick shite up hoping Iran responds so they can call it off
quote:
I think there are at least two possibilities for why an authentic copy of the final MOU has not yet been release — First, the two sides are still negotiating the language and substance or Second, Trump wants to keep the official version hidden from the public until the MOU is signed in order to keep opponents of the genuine deal in the dark. Do you have another explanation?
LINK
One theory is we didn't release it because we don't want Israel to undermine it. But, you make a good point that if Trump receives a bunch of backlash the next two days, maybe we turn Israel loose and blame the failure to sign it on them.
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