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re: Nurse who injected 8,600 patients with saline instead of Covid vaccine gets probation

Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:01 pm to
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Built on institutional legitimacy that no longer exists.

Consent is perhaps THE most critical element of medical treatment. Being deprived of informed consent because your direct provider lied about what they put in your body is wrong.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:02 pm to
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Treatment authorized by patients. Keep flailing though

Keep trying to pretend that stating this nurse is completely wrong also somehow means I support the vaccine mandates, or any mandate regarding any medication.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:04 pm to
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Consent is perhaps THE most critical element of medical treatment. Being deprived of informed consent because your direct provider lied about what they put in your body is wrong.


So I'll put aside the institutional illegitimacy surrounding this entire issue for one second.

The nurse didn't put another drug in a persons body. She put the equivalent of nothing. So your "in your body" feigned outrage is particularly retarded.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:05 pm to
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Keep trying to pretend that stating this nurse is completely wrong also somehow means I support the vaccine mandates, or any mandate regarding any medication.


Did I say anything about mandates? (i didnt)

You're struggling so hard to keep up.

Maybe sleep on it?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:05 pm to
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Nope. No post I have made in this thread endorses or excuses any vaccine mandate.


Of course not, people can simply lose their career / livelihood instead.

You seem fine with that “choice.”

For many, that is effectively a mandate.

You don’t see it that way, cool.

I’m sure those that lost careers / livelihood disagree with you.

I know that if I was basically forced out of military service, I would feel ostracized.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

The nurse didn't put another drug in a persons body. She put the equivalent of nothing. So your "in your body" feigned outrage is particularly retarded.


No, it’s not. The patient expected the vaccine in their body and it wasn’t there because their medical provider lied to them.

It’s baffling that y’all are trying to defend this
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6488 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:08 pm to
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And I answered that I don’t care. 

While the nurses actions were conflicted with her oath, she chose not to administer based on her own convictions.
Your convictions have you adamantly opposed to her actions, but yet you seem to refuse to apply those same convictions (you don't care) to a far more egregious healtcare deception by our own government and medical industry.
Your fervor against her actions should be directed at all of the medical injustice during the entire covid debacle.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:09 pm to
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No, it’s not. The patient expected the vaccine in their body and it wasn’t there because their medical provider lied to them.


You're struggling too.

Par for the course though
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:11 pm to
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It’s baffling that y’all are trying to defend this



The lies by the medical profession are far worse.
Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
1274 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:12 pm to
Maybe this nurse was inspired by the bio of Corrie Ten Boom
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 10:14 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:15 pm to
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their medical provider lied to them.


She did.

That being said, most medical providers were also lying when they said the vaccine would stop the spread.

Very few had the balls to say otherwise, even as their own experiences were indicating it was a falsehood, as it may have cost them their livelihoods.

The medical profession has had their credibility altered significantly in the eyes of many.

This nurse is just the latest example of how the trust of the public has been abused.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:18 pm to
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The patient expected the vaccine in their body and it wasn’t there because their medical provider lied to them.


The other mental midget specifically complained about something unwanted "in their body"

A placebo.

You're not keeping up.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:23 pm to
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If she net saved lives , given we can't rely on the net social benefit of institutional legitimacy, lines get a lot more blurry


Oh just bullshite all over this.

She worked as a jab nurse at a jab center and was responsible for jab preparation. People go explicitly to get the jab, but she secretly replaces jab with something (or nothing, as you go on later to say) else. When confronted, she lies. She lies about motive, she lies about scale, and then she’s outed via antibody tests.

There’s nothing fricking blurry about it. What she did was wrong. She knew it was wrong. She lied because she knew it was wrong.

You guys are touting this lady as some sort of angel of mercy when she’s actually a dishonest, deceitful, conniving criminal.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:26 pm to
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dishonest, deceitful, conniving criminal.



That sounds like the medical profession.

Then again, they "practice" their profession while others perform their profession.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:27 pm to
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The nurse didn't put another drug in a persons body. She put the equivalent of nothing. So your "in your body" feigned outrage is particularly retarded.

So she lied about what she put in their bodies? That is never acceptable. Lying about treatment is not acceptable and totally violates any pretense of informed consent.

IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THE TREATMENT IS. There is simply never any excuse for a nurse to lie about what they are giving their patient.

Absolutely astounding that you guys continue to argue that what she did was somehow not 100% wrong.

This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 10:32 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39536 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:27 pm to
I mean I’m no fan of the Covid vaccine but it’s pretty shitty to not give it to someone who wants it.

Surprised she didn’t get in more trouble than that. People defending her just shows how crazy some here are
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 10:30 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:29 pm to
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He should just come out say that he supports vaccine mandates.
”If you disagree with me on one point, you MUST disagree on every point.”

Soundc analysis.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 10:42 pm
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:29 pm to
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A placebo.


These people didn’t sign up for a damn double blind study. They explicitly sought a vaccine, were told they received it, and injected with something other than what they explicitly sought and were lied to about having received.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:30 pm to
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why did Big Pharma ask for immunity from lawsuits?
Because government was pressuring them to complete a task in months, which normally takes years.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

That sounds like the medical profession. Then again, they "practice" their profession while others perform their profession.


So don’t go to the doctor or hospital. That’s your prerogative.
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