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re: NPR comes to the realization that Civil War is indeed a possibility
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:55 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:55 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:It appears that only those on the right are expected to compromise.
Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the good of the country.
Where is the compromise offered by your regressive allies?
I seem to recall a certain party trying to remove the filibuster so that they would never have to compromise.
It appears your allies and betters need to stop their intolerant ways and work on their ability to compromise.
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:58 am to WildTchoupitoulas
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
The “Union” is dripping with the blood of Patriots.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
The “Union” is dripping with the blood of Patriots.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:59 am to roadGator
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Sounds like your radical left friends.
Yeah, I read that paragraph and immediately thought about Comey and Strzok, not someone posting on a message board.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:00 pm to Scruffy
quote:In Wild's world, if the radical left manages to effectively nullify the constitution, the rest of us are "seditious" if we have a problem with it and Wild is a patriot for basically supporting WHOMEVER takes control.
It appears that only those on the right are expected to compromise.
Where is the compromise offered by your regressive allies?
I seem to recall a certain party trying to remove the filibuster so that they would never have to compromise.
It appears your allies and betters need to stop their intolerant ways and work on their ability to compromise.
Wild is literally a useful idiot.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:02 pm to Mike Honcho
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When this war actually starts it won’t take long for these dickheads to realize they’ve made a terrible mistake.
And it’ll then be too late.
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They have been pushing and pushing for years and the right has just taken it but when they finally provoke the response they are looking for it they will sue for ceasefire and truce. If it actually gets there, the right has to fight to win.
Absolutely. Can’t trust a snake.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:04 pm to DesScorp
Lol. This so called conflict they are referencing will not be as they envision.
All we have to do is encircle the blue cities and lock em down. They are segregated and dependent. Nothing in… nothing out… power off.
Then it’s wait them out.
All we have to do is encircle the blue cities and lock em down. They are segregated and dependent. Nothing in… nothing out… power off.
Then it’s wait them out.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:06 pm to Scruffy
I think is what is lost on some people. Conservatives have been compromising for the last 40 years. As soon as a compromise is reached there is a push even farther left than the original followed by pleas to compromise, rinse and repeat. Them always wanting and us always giving.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:08 pm to FearlessFreep
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Let suppose that, after VJ Day, the duly elected people holding the reigns of government decided that, for the sake of preservation of the Union, it was necessary to keep the wartime restrictions on liberty in place indefinitely.
Some were. Notable examples are freedom of association/speech when it came to McCarthyism, and Selective Service/The Draft for illegal wars in Korea and Vietnam. But ultimately the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances is the most effective right in these cases.
But for it to be effective, the majority of the People have to agree as to what are perceived as grievances. The illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the subsequent restrictions of civil liberties passed in the Patriot [sic] Act had no such consensus among the People. Neither has such a consensus been reached with regard to the egregious overspending, and subsequent debt incurred by the federal government. So we must muddle along with our compromises until such a consensus is reached.
Violence against the government is not supported in the Constitution.
BTW, I appreciate your civil approach to the topic.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:09 pm to beerJeep
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Yeah. I checked the embedded link that he used to get his numbers…. He’s referencing ar15 style rifles only
Yep. I have a BAR 300 Win Mag I can hurl 4 rounds at a time in pretty damn quick succession and reload withing 20 seconds to do it again. Only issue is my fricking shoulder will be toast by then cause shes a kickin mule.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:11 pm to pochejp
quote:That's just sad.
Yeah. I checked the embedded link that he used to get his numbers…. He’s referencing ar15 style rifles only
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:11 pm to AussieRock
They are like my neighbor. His idea of patriotism is following whatever rule or edict comes down from government. Those kind of people are exactly the type dictators love and would fit in perfectly with the Nazi SS, just follow your damn orders.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:11 pm to Scruffy
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It appears that only those on the right are expected to compromise.
That’s because to the left, compromise means “give me what I want or I’ll stamp my feet and make noise until you give in just to shut me up”.
And over the years, the right has acquiesced to these spoiled children.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:12 pm to Bwmdx
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They are like my neighbor. His idea of patriotism is following whatever rule or edict comes down from government. Those kind of people are exactly the type dictators love and would fit in perfectly with the Nazi SS, just follow your damn orders.
Yup
Had Wild been a young adult in 1930s Germany, he'd have been the best damned Nazi Germany had ever seen!!!
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:17 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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These words are just as relevant today as the day they were written:
“….We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness….”
The words you quote are not in the Constitution, and are not law. The words I quoted ARE law. You may call the law "balderdash", but then that makes you, quite literally, a scofflaw - at best.
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Our nation was indeed founded upon the right to address irreconcilable differences through political separatism
While this may be true, those "irreconcilable differences" must be plainly articulated, and debated as to their irreconcilability. To simply say, "Muh, Marxism!" is neither plainly articulated, nor has it even been defined, much less debated.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:18 pm to DesScorp
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"Semi-automatic weapons comprise around 19.8 million in total," they add ominously, "making for a highly armed population with potentially dangerous capabilities."
Again this shows they don't know what the frick they are talking about.
Of the 400 million firearms in the US at least 100 million are semi automatic
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:20 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:how is there any debate when one side controls the media and censors all dissent?
nor has it even been defined, much less debated.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:21 pm to Scruffy
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your regressive allies
I have no "regressive allies". If you can't debate the points as presented, you should probably bow out rather than resort to presumptuous strawman premises.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:22 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Without compromise, there is only intolerance. Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the good of the country.
Compromising with those who openly gloat about wanting to fundamentally change America is what has led us to no longer recognize our country anymore.
Are you being obtuse bc I find it hard to believe that you genuinely care about the good of our country when you support those who hate it so much that they want to fundamentally change it.
You don’t negotiate with those plotting your demise.... you crush them.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:28 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Without compromise, there is only intolerance. Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the good of the country.
We tolerated the intolerable.
That’s why this country is falling apart. We didn’t defend our values.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:32 pm to UncleFestersLegs
quote:The media exist within the framework of our free market, capitalist system. If you think we should restrict the freedom of the press as identified in the First Amendment, you should petition the government for a redress of those grievances, exercising your right under that same amendment. I will not support you in that endeavor, however, as I see it as self-defeating inasmuch as if you are successful, you may have your own right to speech restricted.
how is there any debate when one side controls the media and censors all dissent?
OR...
Under our current economic system, it is said, "Build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door". If you don't like the mousetrap that is our current media, build a better one and quicherbitchin.
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