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Not much talk about Louisiana Constitutional Amendments, but a lot on the ballot

Posted on 11/7/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted by T
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 12:43 pm
I have not heard or seen much discussion anywhere about the La constitutional amendments that are on the ballot this election. I typically take the stance if an amendment isn't being talked about and the description doesn't really tell you anything, then it's probably just somethIng the legislature is sneaking through with little pushback, so I typically vote no.

Are there any amendments worth voting yes for this election?
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 12:55 pm to
My Dad said yes on the civil service one
I never got the chance to ask why, I am going to read through them again but think I’m going no for all
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8154 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 12:57 pm to
I’ve spent hours studying and talking to staunch limited govt conservatives

Yes on 1, 5, 8

They almost tricked me on 5 bc I was voting no but voting yes mean they no longer have to use the maximum millages every 4 yrs.

To all of you voting no… the politicians thank you bc they want you to think you’re opposing something and your no vote just allows it

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This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

My Dad said yes on the civil service one I never got the chance to ask why, I am going to read through them again but think I’m going no for all

That’s an especially hard no!
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 12:59 pm to
For me the votes are:

1: Max state monies which can be invested: Yes

2: Expand homestead exemptions for disabled vets: Yes

3: Allows civil service family members to support election of other family members: No

4: Authorizes charge wavers for water bills in certain circumstances: Yes

5: Millage adjustments: No

6: Limits property assessments in Orleans: No

7: Allowing criminals to be used for manual labor: Yes

8: Remove annual certification of income for disabled homeowners: No
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:10 pm to
I personally am voting no for all .. and before anyone asks no I’m not against disabled veterans.

What I would like to know is why are there some in tomorrows election and more in December. ??????????
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:13 pm to
Voting No on #5 means they have to use the maximum millage every 4yrs.

Voting yes, prevents this.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:23 pm to
Vote no
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Voting No on #5 means they have to use the maximum millage every 4yrs.

Voting yes, prevents this.



Are you sure about that? From PAR:

quote:

A VOTE FOR WOULD
Give local taxing bodies more time to decide if they want to “roll forward” millages that
increase property taxes paid by businesses and homeowners.


quote:

CURRENT SITUATION
The Louisiana Constitution requires that all property be reappraised at least every four years and that millages be adjusted (rolled forward or rolled back) following reassessment so that tax collections stay the same as in the previous year, despite changes in property values or homestead exemptions. However, taxing bodies are allowed to restore rolled-back millages partially or fully by enacting a roll-forward, limited to the prior year’s “maximum authorized millage rate.”


quote:

These maximum rates remain in effect until the next reassessment. A taxing body may enact a partial roll-forward in each or any year prior to the next reassessment if it does not exceed the established maximum rate. If the taxing authority doesn’t enact the roll-forward before the next reassessment, the maximum millage rate available to it drops to the millage level used at the time of the reassessment. There is no limit on the amount of tax collections a roll-forward can generate.


quote:

PROPOSED CHANGE
The amendment would let taxing bodies roll forward their millage rates up to the maximum rate until that authorized millage rate expires, rather than until the next reassessment cycle of property. Expiration dates vary, but typically millage rates are enacted for longer periods than a four-year assessment cycle.


My legalese isn't all that good but it reads to me like the bill allows for a taxing body to assess at the previous year's rate. If that rate was lower, good. But we're about to head into a period where property values are going to drop due to high rates on loans, meaning this could allow for higher taxation to last longer (again, if I'm reading it correctly).
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:42 pm to
I bookmarked so I can use it as a reference guide in the voting booth tomorrow.
Posted by GeneralLeeAwesome
Chalmette
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:44 pm to
Then why vote no if you aren’t against disabled veterans?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112499 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:47 pm to
I'm voting No on all.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

My Dad said yes on the civil service one


If you're going to vote "no" for any of these amendments, this is the one. It basically says Civil Service rules against participating in elections don't apply to the employee if one of their relatives is running for office.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8154 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:52 pm to
Yes I’m sure.

Louisiana law says every four years, for at least one year, those taxing bodies have to collect the maximum millage rate or lose the power to ask voters to increase that maximum in the future.

The argument for this amendment – is that it will save taxpayers money – since tax-funded entities don’t have to hit the max if they don’t need it.

The argument against this amendment – is that it would open the door for those entities to ask voters for a higher millage rate in the future – even if they really didn’t need it.

A vote ‘yes’ on this amendment would give districts the flexibility to adjust property tax collections when the need arises… without having to hit the maximum millage amount.

A vote ‘no’ would mean taxing bodies have to hit the maximum millage rate at least once every four years.

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Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8154 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Then why vote no if you aren’t against disabled veterans?

My daddy is a Vietnam Vet and also voting no. This explains why here:

Currently, Louisiana properties are assessed at 10% of fair market value. $7,500 of assessed value is exempt from property taxes, but veterans that are 100% disabled have $15,000 exempt from their property taxes. This amendment would replace the current exemption for veterans with a 100% disability and expand those exemptions to other disabled veterans of a lesser disability rate.

A yes vote means you support changes to property tax exemptions for certain disabled veterans and their surviving spouse. This vote means you support one or more of the following:

Exempting $7,500 of homestead property tax AND exempting $2,500 for veterans with service-related disabilities that rate between 50% and 69%.
Exempting $7,500 of homestead property tax AND exempting $4,500 of assessed value from property taxes for veterans with service-related disabilities that rate between 70% and 99%.

Exempting the total assessed value from property taxes from veterans that are 100% disabled or 100% unemployable

Allowing the surviving spouse of the deceased disabled veteran to receive the exemption, even if the exemption was not claimed on the property before the veteran’s death

A no vote means you support keeping the property tax exemptions at $7,500 for a veteran with a 100% disability rating and their surviving spouse.

We have nothing against disabled veterans, obviously, but we’re a no on this one. Local governments have the ability to supply property tax exemptions, and they should take responsibility for items like this. And it definitely doesn’t belong in the state constitution, which is cluttered enough as is.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36716 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

certain disabled veterans


Also this .. "certain" .. who decides? Who's just on the threshold? Who will be the next group that gets this exemption?
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

To all of you voting no… the politicians thank you bc they want you to think you’re opposing something and your no vote just allows it


I've been trying to tell some this but you know, they're right and I'm wrong because obviously voting no means the politicians get screwed..
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8154 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

I've been trying to tell some this but you know, they're right and I'm wrong because obviously voting no means the politicians get screwed..

Yup! And they say they vote no bc there’s too much…. Yet, voting yes on 8 declutters the constitution and cuts red tape.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51679 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 2:37 pm to
Thanks for dumbing it down for me.
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