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re: Not a good look for DeSanctus - update: the DeSimps have no defense.

Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by Pechon
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:16 pm to
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They have morphed into left wing twitter


Cult45 screams at the sky harder than liberal sky screamers.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55586 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:17 pm to
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He delivered the House of Representatives to the Republicans though.


In very underwhelming fashion. We were expected to pick up nearly 30 seats. What did we get? Net 3?
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 3:18 pm
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
13819 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:22 pm to
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Cult45 screams at the sky harder than liberal sky screamers.


Only difference between Cult45 and libs are the libs have sense enough to know winning elections matter.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53285 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:23 pm to
Trump has won a national election. Dummy
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
33214 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:23 pm to
We got majority control of the House, which they tell me is a big deal.

But beyond that subject, have you ever considered what all it would take for Trump to earn your unabated seal of approval and a job well done? Is there really anything? Seems like you’d have to be prepared to specify what it is that you would expect in that regard in order to conclude whether the efforts are short, well short, just short, etc.

What all would he have to do? There are so many specifics as to failing (much detail to that end), so what exactly does he need to do, in similar detail, to rectify the situation?
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
13819 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:23 pm to
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Trump has won a national election. Dummy


And lost the last one to a turnip
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25427 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:30 pm to
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But not at all surprising that you’d force yourself to compose some sort of distinction that makes it ok in one instance but not the other. Sometimes it’s ok to just say nothing on a given topic or point of debate. As of this point there’s no doubt that it’s automatic for you to get to work right away on a contrary position.


I'll just repost what I said in another thread:
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You've developed a bad habit of trying to speak for others. It's one of the more juvenile and fundamentally dishonest things one can do in a discussion.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55586 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:30 pm to
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We got majority control of the House, which they tell me is a big deal.


We underperformed by net 27 seats. I'm happy we got the majority but NO ONE and i mean NO ONE, has been touting the 2022 election as a great success. And, FWIW, i don't blame this squarely on Trump. Some of it had to do with Republicans and Ronna McDaniel catastrophically failing to get out a coherent message.

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But beyond that subject, have you ever considered what all it would take for Trump to earn your unabated seal of approval and a job well done?


This, is where your assumptions faulter. I don't know about "unabated" but Trump definitely has my seal of approval. He was the best President in my adult lifetime. He strengthened the economy, put the screws to China, and helped us reach energy independence. However, he was short sided and though i agreed with his EO's, they didn't mean shite when Biden could undo them his first day in office. And if we are being perfectly honest, he shoulders a portion of the blame for our current inflationary rates.

With all of that said, i believe DeSantis to be the better candidate. What he has done to Florida, using legislation and essentially making Florida marxist-proof is what i want to happen nationally. Trump's too busy taking pot shots at any Republican that may be a threat to focus on the true enemy. Trump 2024 is not Trump 2016. He'll also be in his 80's and i have damn near universal opposition from anyone at that age being in public office.
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 3:32 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20895 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:36 pm to
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What all would he have to do?

Go back and re-do the last 10 months of his first term - specifically Covid. Given that would take jjdoc-level fantasy, he should acknowledge what happened (perhaps not short of an apology), and explain why the country can rest assured he learned his lessons and that he'll stand up to the next "national emergency" (because we know it's coming), not allow his administration to lead the country off the rails, even if it means bad press.

Also, he can discuss how he's going to surround himself with competent "doers" - after all, there'd be only four years for him to fix a whole lot of shite. That they'd be organized, well-planned, resolute and tireless.

That he'd promise that at the end of this second term, federal gov't spend would be 20% smaller as a percentage of GDP than it was in 2024.

That he'll fix the border this time.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:53 pm to
Have you ever laid out in relatively specific detail what you believe Trump should’ve done and at what particular critical junctures, to meet with your approval? I don’t mean that facetiously, and I don’t mean it as a gotcha by requesting unreasonable detail. Just relatively defined detail, and at which points to have made the referenced moves.

Maybe that would help in understanding what he should’ve done as opposed to what he did/didn’t do.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18697 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 4:03 pm to
We could start with firing Fauci and not warp speeding the clot shot to the people without proper scrutiny

A clot shot he continues to endorse because he desperately wants to be seen as the guy who ended COVID
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20895 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Maybe that would help in understanding what he should’ve done as opposed to what he did/didn’t do.

Like a timeline? No.

Like broad strokes? Yes. In fact there were threads in this board that provided a platform for this sort of thought exercise in real time.

To lay out “this happened on April 10 and this is what he should have done” would be tedious and not as enlightening as speaking to certain principles that should have guided him/his administration.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
33214 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 4:26 pm to
All I’m trying to figure out is what he should’ve done in decent detail, as opposed to the generalized notion that he just needed to buck the “experts” and downplayed the pandemic. Because I’m sure every person in every thing can be criticized for generally “not making the best decisions at all intervals.” Which I’m not accusing you of anything, only seeking to clarify my inquiry.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
150622 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 4:49 pm to
Look at your ratio.

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