re: No Such Thing As Alpha Males

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Classic liberal.

Don't like something? Redefine it to mean what you want it to mean and argue against tha

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He ran and hid from SFP. We won't see him again for a couple weeks

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I was just trying to show you guys there is no inherent alpha male and human beings like there isn't other animals in the animal kingdom.

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I think we know there aren't identical hierarchies between us and animals. There are very similar hierarchies as evidenced by the very article you posted in the OP.

You have a strange tendency to ruin your own arguments using the very material you post

Not reading that shite.

Are you stating that there are not alpha and beta personalities?

Are you then stating there are not males and females?

You are either a giant sniveling pussy or a blue haired fatty with a nose ring.

Why can't you just frick right off?

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All you did was redefine the term to something you preferred to argue against.

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you are being disingenuous or hard-headed. There is no evidence of an adherent alpha male quality and it is entirely subjective. The way the term is used in the rest of the animal kingdom does not work with you and beings and you are simply choosing which qualities you like in a man and calling it alpha male.

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The fact that you had to use quotes proves my point.

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i used quotes because you keep misusing the term

so no, it doesn't

again, you make a faulty assumption to further your alleged point and nothing more

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. Also you're very rudimentary assessment here leaves out things like sociopaths who can appear quite confident and are generally in charge of things but are severely flawed.

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holy shite you have no clue what you're even arguing

for a hip example, Ted Bundy was an alpha. Ted Bundy fricked girls while in prison after killing girls to have sex with their dead corpses. he fathered a child AFTER he was convicted for such crimes and was death row. why was he so desired? he was seen as confident, fit, and entertaining (he also portrayed a status he didn't have, with law school and his intelligence/lying)

while in your world, sociopathy and "issues" are part of the equation, in reality. they're not. nobody is claiming that the term "alpha male" means "Jesus", which is what you just assumed it meant.

there are a LOT of alpha males who are utterly narcissistic sociopaths, and i'd imagine a good chunk of that slice do terrible things

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Most of the things that you listed would indicate the actors in Hollywood are generally some of the bigger alpha males and that people like Donald Trump would only have a couple of those qualities.

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actors are totally alpha

and so is trump. he's tall, confident, rich, and funny/entertaining. you can get away with not being physically attractive if you have power/money (and he has had both for decades)

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This is not in line with what you guys generally talk about when you're talking about alpha males.

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please tell me your interpretation

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and not inherent like it is in other animals.

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yeah not in my argument. this is the strawman you built and found a few articles to support

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you are being disingenuous or hard-headed. There is no evidence of an adherent alpha male quality and it is entirely subjective. The way the term is used in the rest of the animal kingdom does not work with you and beings and you are simply choosing which qualities you like in a man and calling it alpha male.

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Someone might be using a term wrong but there are definitely alpha and beta males (or more likely a lot of delineation down the hierarchy)

If you don't believe me just check out the incel guy in his 30s that was posting here.

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and so is trump. he's tall, confident, rich, and funny/entertaining. you can get away with not being physically attractive if you have power/money (and he has had both for decades)

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I think that is the big misconception ebb doesn't understand. There are no "prototypical" alpha males in humans but they tend to share similar traits in one way or another.

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yeah not in my argument. this is the strawman you built and found a few articles to support

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I started this thread because I wanted all the Trump supporters on this board to see how fallacious and misguided their View of an alpha male really is. They always call themselves and Donald Trump alpha males and all of the left-wing people betas. By Trump supporters own version I want an alpha male is almost every one of them would technically be a beta.

Your argument simply points out qualities that many different men have one or two of and almost none of them have all of and trying to apply a term that is used in the animal kingdom for a very specific hierarchy, and superimposing it over our culture and Society. You are still proving my point about being misguided and proving my point at how subjective your application is.

Besides, if you are correct about the meaning of alpha traits, then liberal Hollywood actors and rock stars would generally be the biggest Alphas in the United States. Which is really funny by the way because I'm sure most of you would line up to disagree with that statement, disagreeing with your own meaning of alpha male.

My point was you guys just apply it how you see fit

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and that the term that you guys have been using since about 2015 or 16, when you started applying it to Trump, is misguided

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how ?

especially with respect to Trump

you know the infamous Hollywood Access tape? that was Trump talking up being alhpa. that ugly, fat, and orange guy has women wanting to frick him at all times, so badly they'll let him do anything to them