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re: No Such Thing As Alpha Males

Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Someone might be using a term wrong but there are definitely alpha and beta males (or more likely a lot of delineation down the hierarchy)


That is entirely subjective. The meaning of this could change from skill to skill, job to job, brothers and their complex relationship with each other, a football field, a different city...etc
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:19 pm to
Why so obsessed over something no one will ever describe you as?

Weirdo
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:19 pm to
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I started this thread because I wanted all the Trump supporters on this board to see how fallacious and misguided their View of an alpha male really is. They always call themselves and Donald Trump alpha males and all of the left-wing people betas. By Trump supporters own version I want an alpha male is almost every one of them would technically be a beta.

i love watching you people finally unveil your master plan because what you think is this epic, logical "gotcha" moment isn't 6th Sense, it's Avatar

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Your argument simply points out qualities that many different men have one or two of and almost none of them have all of and trying to apply a term that is used in the animal kingdom for a very specific hierarchy, and superimposing it over our culture and Society. You are still proving my point about being misguided and proving my point at how subjective your application is.


yeah and the examples of "irony" in the allanis morisette song "Ironic" aren't actually irony

sometimes social connotations aren't the same as the definitions in academic literature. that's not a major revelation

guess what else? when people say "cuck", they most often don't actually mean a man who watches his wife frick another guy

when people post "that's my fetish" memes, they're not actually referencing an actual fetish

do i need to go on or do you understand?

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if you are correct about the meaning of alpha traits, then liberal Hollywood actors and rock stars would generally be the biggest Alphas in the United States.

who the frick doesn't agree with this?

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Which is really funny by the way because I'm sure most of you would line up to disagree with that statement, disagreeing with your own meaning of alpha male.

and you're wrong
Posted by Vecchio Cane
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

That is entirely subjective. The meaning of this could change from skill to skill, job to job, brothers and their complex relationship with each other, a football field, a different city...etc


Okay, but there are alpha males in certain situations. That's very different from your thread title
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:21 pm to
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The meaning of this could change from skill to skill, job to job, brothers and their complex relationship with each other, a football field, a different city...etc

then it's specified

like, "he's an alpha on the football field". "alpha dog" is a very common word in basketball and football

i'll give you another example that's hot right now. Anthony Davis is being criticized for not being an alpha (on the basketball court).

when this board uses alpha, it's in the relational sense, primarily the sexual marketplace
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

you know the infamous Hollywood Access tape? that was Trump talking up being alhpa. that ugly, fat, and orange guy has women wanting to frick him at all times, so badly they'll let him do anything to them


Which would put most left-leaning actors in Hollywood on that list, by your definition of course. All those liberal rock stars and actors would be the top Alphas face on your definition but I'm sure you will choose to sort it how you like which is exactly my point.

I've seen women all want to frick the new guy at a job simply because he's new. I've seen men want to bang chicks because they like the curve of her arse. People have different reasons for what they're into. But based on your definition, they getting laid is the most important quality of an alpha male, then Hollywood actor liberals would be your Alphas
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:26 pm to
It's pitiful that he has to have that explained to him in his own failed gotcha thread.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:28 pm to
Dude is so ate up with trump derangement that he posted a “gotcha” thread about alpha males
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476003 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:28 pm to
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Which would put most left-leaning actors in Hollywood on that list, by your definition of course.

yeah i specifically listed them before you started making irrational comments about them

i posted a picture of Bobby Lee even before that

quote:

All those liberal rock stars and actors would be the top Alphas face on your definition

i literally said usually looks and money/power aren't all there, unless you're a hollywood actor

alpha has no political designation

again, you're not posting anything revealing and this imagined conflict is only in your head
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476003 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Dude is so ate up with trump derangement that he posted a “gotcha” thread about alpha males

this is why liberal posters usually ignore me

Ebb's thread has devolved into totally sane arguments like

1. Trump isn't an alpha

2. This board doesn't consider hollywood actors alphas

Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:31 pm to
I knew from the initial post that his thread was a veiled trolling attempt towards trump supporters
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:31 pm to
well no shite but it took 9-10 pages for this epic reveal that is near fricking insanity

OH MY GOD NO! NO WAY IS BRAD PITT AN ALPHA!
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Okay, but there are alpha males in certain situations. That's very different from your thread title


to suggest there should be situational leaders based on their skill set, based on the current need, it's something I can agree with. But that would dispel the myth of inherent Alphas and would also make one question motives like putting completely unqualified people in the White House because you think they're an alpha in different situations that are unrelated.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42409 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

But that would dispel the myth of inherent Alphas and would also make one question motives like putting completely unqualified people in the White House because you think they're an alpha in different situations that are unrelated.


Who voted for trump strictly because of this “alpha male” bull shite you are melting about?
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:34 pm to
See, I’m not a beta! “SCIENCE!” has proven it.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27969 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

But based on your definition


So now definitions matter?

You're so pathetic
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476003 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

to suggest there should be situational leaders based on their skill set, based on the current need, it's something I can agree with.

well no shite. that's the straw man you use to create this thread
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But that would dispel the myth of inherent Alphas

there is no such thing as an inherent alpha

even the alphas who have confidence because of their looks have to cultivate that confidence over time. there are pretty people who lack confidence (aka, aren't alphas)

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and would also make one question motives like putting completely unqualified people in the White House because you think they're an alpha

oh

oh boy

i'm so glad i didn't forget about this thread
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42409 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

oh

oh boy

i'm so glad i didn't forget about this thread


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476003 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Who voted for trump strictly because of this “alpha male” bull shite you are melting about?

i specifically used memes as examples earlier in anticipation of this
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

yeah i specifically listed them before you started making irrational comments about them

i posted a picture of Bobby Lee even before that

quote:
All those liberal rock stars and actors would be the top Alphas face on your definition

i literally said usually looks and money/power aren't all there, unless you're a hollywood actor

alpha has no political designation

again, you're not posting anything revealing and this imagined conflict is only in your head



So how would you feel if someone wanted to vote Robert De Niro in the White House?
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