re: No Such Thing As Alpha Males

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No Such Thing As Alpha Males

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psychology today

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did you read this article?

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When we speak of human alpha males today, it may be that we refer to the trait of social dominance: Studies have demonstrated that socially dominant men hold sway with many women, and can invoke feelings of inferiority among men.

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one attempt at discrediting this:

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There's a curious caveat, however—although height is linked to mate preferences in the West, studies have revealed that a desire for tall men is not a cross-cultural universal.

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oh snap. that really means a lot to a discussion of a western term used by western people. and i'd love to see this cite b/c anecdotally, my friends who have lived in asia always tell me they love tall, western men.

so the article establishes that height, voice, and face all make men more desirable, proving parts of the "alpha" construct. this article, however, ignores confidence and being self-assured, probably because the author doesn't understand what "alpha" actually means.

oh but there is this

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n the animal world, social dominance is often equated with the might of alpha males. But let's remember Sapolsky's caution that humans are thankfully more complex—and this comment from British actress and writer Miranda Hart: “It's a real man who can go out with a woman who's taller than he is. That's an alpha male right there.”

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YOU GO GIRL. YOU GOT EM!

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Business Insider

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As the writer Saladin Ahmed pointed out, the concept of "alpha male" wolves that assert dominance over their pack through aggression comes from a debunked model of lupine social groups.

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oh great. when people say "alpha" they're not talking about being a leader of a group

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In the 2003 book "Sexual Selections: What We Can and Can't Learn about Sex from Animals," the biologist Marlene Zuk points out that social groups of hens do have "pecking orders." That is, hierarchies among the females with dominance asserted through pecking.

But roosters are not part of those social groups, Zuk writes, and the idea that the top hen is somehow an "alpha male" bizarrely misgenders the dominant bird.

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this isn't a counterpoint like they believe it is. Margo Robbie is an "alpha hen". she ain't going to do anything but laugh at SFP. your socially dominant male will have his proverbial pick of the litter. this will require a ranking of females, accordingly.

it's not misgendering the term, it's just, again, misunderstanding it's context in contemporary discussion

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Probably when they started trying to prop up their frail egos by calling themselves alpha males.

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Look, I don't wanna go there (and damn you morons on the Left for making me), but you sheep on the Left need to hear something and understand it:

Almost every thing you have and love in this world (excluding family) is because a white man either created it or made it better.

Now, you don't have to acknowledge it, but it is absolutely true.

Further, most of those incredible advances/improvements were due to the work of HETEROSEXUAL white men with JUDO-CHRISTIAN views.

Again, I don't expect you to build some sort of shrine, but to keep yourself from looking like an ignorant moron, you need to at least acknowledge it:

Western Civilization and most of the things worth having are a byproduct of Toxic Masculinity exhibited by mostly white, Christian males....your're fkin' welcome, Soyboys.....

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I don't know your age, but I am sure you are young

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My guess is under 30.

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So fricking stupid. Dems try anything to get their point right.

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the funny thing is that the big Left somewhat admits that "alpha males" exist, but they just label it differently

the whole "Alpha" thing is just a return to classic masculinity, which is known as "toxic masculinity" or "patriarchal behavior" by the Big Left. now it's not a direct comparison (because toxic masculinity can involve all sorts of really negative behaviors like abuse), but they'r effectively the same.

the entire point of the modern "alpha" commentary is to reverse the feminization of society that feminists have forced. there are a few generations of feminized men who face increasingly frustrating standards (internal and societal) and negative outcomes (best example is higher education ratios)

the sad part for women is that by forcing more moderate men away from traditional masculinity (think, your chilvalrous class), they decrease their available pool of masculine mates. since the moderates are decimated, you're left with a much more polar selection of outright sociopaths, narcissists, and males promoting lower class values. women who want relationships suffer. women who want relationships that will lead to children are completely fricked.

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You have to first prove the existence of alpha males in human beings buy an accredited source and then have it peer reviewed.

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again

have you ever heard of evolutionary psychology?

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You weren't trying to have a debate. You wanted an argument. Your word choice. You were trolling.

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Argument and debate are synonymous. How you can choose that I'm trolling or being genuine about a point is merely based on your own bias. Any mods that think that they understand the difference are being disingenuous. I've never tried so hard that I said something I didn't believe at least a little. I've been called every name in the book on this board and those people still post every day. You pretending like the rules are fair around here is just silly.

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How many scientific laws have behavioral psychologists discovered?

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Instead of me answering your ridiculous question, why don't we stay on subject and you can show me where there is a peer-reviewed study that shows alpha males in humans does in fact exist

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why don't we stay on subject and you can show me where there is a peer-reviewed study that shows alpha males in humans does in fact exist

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i can show you a bunch of studies that argue for traits of alpha males being advantageous, especially in the realm of sexual desire/status

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Instead of me answering your ridiculous question, why don't we stay on subject and you can show me where there is a peer-reviewed study that shows alpha males in humans does in fact exist

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Google has this cool feature. It you choose custom range, you can filter out recent years when you search. This is quite useful as it tends to weed out all of the "pop" shite of the day that rises to the top of typical searches.

It is no surprise that a standard Google of various Alpha Male searches brings up tons of recent stuff decrying the concept because, well, today's Betas like you REALLY want to eat that shite up.

Weed out the last 8-10 years and suddenly, you discover that the idea of Alpha male is quite common in the literature.

Basically, you got fed a diet of what you wanted to hear because you're pathetic and, rather than try and find something that contradicted your pabulum, you grabbed up your Paci and felt comforted.

from the article:

"We belong to more than one social circle—a man who may be a custodian by day may be [b]a superstar DJ by night."


A SUPERSTAR DJ?

Yeah, she has a real grasp of Alpha males