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re: No Such Thing As Alpha Males

Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:34 pm to
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You pretending like the rules are fair around here is just silly. 


Link to where I said they were fair.

You are incapable of honest debate. First we have to start with my question which leads us to the fact that behavior psychologists aren't scientists. They deal in the unproven. But You knew that.
Posted by Perfect Circle
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:41 pm to
You might want to back out of this thread...you're getting owned.
Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:54 pm to
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have you ever heard of evolutionary psychology?



Yeah
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:56 pm to
why did you skip me pointing out that you didn't read the articles you posted?
Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:56 pm to
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i can show you a bunch of studies that argue for traits of alpha males being advantageous, especially in the realm of sexual desire/status


Please go ahead and show me some peer-reviewed research
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:59 pm to
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why did you skip me pointing out that you didn't read the articles you posted?


I don't know where I missed that but I definitely did read the articles. Can you show me where the idea of an alpha male in human beings is accepted by any scientific community or psychological community.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:06 pm to
Confidence and status are very attractive traits, Buunk, Dijkstra, Fetchenhauer, & Kenrick, 2002

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Consistent with an evolutionary perspective, men preferred mates who were higher in physical attractiveness than themselves, whereas women preferred mates who were higher in income, education, self–confidence, intelligence, dominance, and social position than themselves.


Physical strength is a significant variable in sexual attractiveness

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Three sets of photographs of men's bodies were shown to raters who estimated either their physical strength or their attractiveness. Estimates of physical strength determined over 70% of men's bodily attractiveness. Additional analyses showed that tallness and leanness were also favoured, and, along with estimates of physical strength, accounted for 80% of men's bodily attractiveness. Contrary to popular theories of men's physical attractiveness, there was no evidence of a nonlinear effect; the strongest men were the most attractive in all samples.


Humor reveals intelligence and predicts mating success

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Structural equation models showed that general and verbal intelligence both predict humor production ability, which in turn predicts mating success, such as lifetime number of sexual partners. Also, males showed higher average humor production ability. These results suggest that the human sense of humor evolved at least partly through sexual selection as an intelligence-indicator.


i can keep going

your basic "alpha male" is confident, fit, of high status, and funny/entertaining.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Can you show me where the idea of an alpha male in human beings is accepted by any scientific community or psychological community.

i just posted articles showing the power of adopting "alpha male" traits, especially in sexual selection

there was an overlap in this data and the data in your links (as i quoted), but you failed to respond to above
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:10 pm to
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Humor reveals intelligence and predicts mating success

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Structural equation models showed that general and verbal intelligence both predict humor production ability, which in turn predicts mating success, such as lifetime number of sexual partners. Also, males showed higher average humor production ability. These results suggest that the human sense of humor evolved at least partly through sexual selection as an intelligence-indicator.




I've never seen sense of humor tied into this equation, but I like that.

Maybe because I don't have a whole lot else going for me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:14 pm to
that's how ugly comics get to bang hot chicks

for example. bobby lee and his wife

Posted by Centinel
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:38 pm to
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It's pretty ignorant to just assume that one person would be best to lead in every situation even when they weren't inclined to help in that particular situation. Different skill sets and variety are what makes humans so efficient at solving problems.

Did you know that people in India solve problems in groups?


You have absolutely zero understanding of leadership.

Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:39 pm to
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Elvis Presley was definitely an Alpha Male.


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Please explain


No, I won't explain because it's fricking obvious.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 1:40 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:42 pm to
Does Bobby Lee have a lot of money?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:50 pm to
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is no surprise that a standard Google of various Alpha Male searches brings up tons of recent stuff decrying the concept because, well, today's Betas like you REALLY want to eat that shite up.



Well I know I would certainly trust your qualified opinion
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:52 pm to
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Does Bobby Lee have a lot of money?

i don't think he's poor but i don't think he's super loaded or making lots of money now
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:52 pm to
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Well I know I would certainly trust your qualified opinion


You shouldn't

You should make an aren't to replicate what I searched

But you don't actually want to learn.

You got told what you wanted to hear. You weren't looking for information. You were looking for reassurance
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:54 pm to
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You got told what you wanted to hear. You weren't looking for information. You were looking for reassurance


I was just trying to show you guys there is no inherent alpha male and human beings like there isn't other animals in the animal kingdom. I enjoy shattering paradigms. I'm sorry you heard something you didn't want to hear and this is your reaction
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:56 pm to
Ebb, apparently, thinks "alpha male" means pack leader like a wolf exclusively or something
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:57 pm to
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I was just trying to show you guys there is no inherent alpha male

your links support my argument

and i provided published, peer-reviewed evidence to support my argument

and you ignore my arugument :/

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I enjoy shattering paradigms

or, in this case, setting staw men on fire
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:58 pm to
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Ebb, apparently, thinks "alpha male" means pack leader like a wolf exclusively or something


Classic liberal.

Don't like something? Redefine it to mean what you want it to mean and argue against that.
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