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re: No issue bothers me quite like the current interpretation of the 14th Amendment
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:10 am to TriStateAreaFootball
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:10 am to TriStateAreaFootball
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The children of foreigners are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States.
You are exactly right!!
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:19 am to ChineseBandit58
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You would be good entertainment in mock trials where trivial matters as given outrageous emphasis. You remind me of the lawyers in the mock trial we attended at Boy's State = funny as hell - but a lot of "law" was discussed - and all the points were valid - but in a real situation any housewife (at that time) could have solved the REAL problem in 10 seconds.
The Founders literally created a process of procedures and systems to solve problems. For 250 years we have operated in that system to become the greatest country to ever exist on this planet. To argue we should break it this time for a "housewife" solution when it has gotten us through Civil Wars, Reconstruction, multiple world wars, etc because some issue is so big now that it is threatening our country is asinine when the "problem" has existed for 150 years.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:23 am to lionward2014
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For 250 years we have operated in that system to become the greatest country to ever exist on this planet.
You think our current issues with illegal immigration are the result of “operating in the system?”
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:35 am to the808bass
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You think our current issues with illegal immigration are the result of “operating in the system?”
I think trying to change the Constitution via EO is assuredly NOT operating within the system.
John Roberts was right, the world is different but the Constitution is the same. It's why the 2nd Amendment should protect everything from a dagger to a nuke.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:44 am to lionward2014
We’ll take that as a no.
We wouldn’t have to be trying to do an end run on the Constitution if the Marxists and Corporatocracy, totally enabled by the critical studies judiciary, hadn’t done an end run on enforcing existing immigration law.
We appreciate your concern for the integrity of the system at this late date.
We wouldn’t have to be trying to do an end run on the Constitution if the Marxists and Corporatocracy, totally enabled by the critical studies judiciary, hadn’t done an end run on enforcing existing immigration law.
We appreciate your concern for the integrity of the system at this late date.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:49 am to TriStateAreaFootball
Subject to the jurisdiction does not apply to illegals and their offspring. What do f’n hard to understand? Current birthright is a fricking joke. What other country has this nonsense?
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:53 am to the808bass
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We wouldn’t have to be trying to do an end run on the Constitution if the Marxists and Corporatocracy, totally enabled by the critical studies judiciary, hadn’t done an end run on enforcing existing immigration law.
When the pendulum swings back hard to the Left these arguments are going to be used by them to absolutely destroy shite.
Alito and Thomas won’t be around forever. That 6-3 lead goes 5-4 the other way very quickly with a Democrat president.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:58 am to TriStateAreaFootball
"You hit the nail on the head. The 'interpretation' isn't a mistake—it’s a Jurisdictional Infiltration.
When they say everyone born here is 'subject to the jurisdiction,' they are using a Semantic Sophism to bypass the 1812 Organic Act. They have 'Deemed' your children into the same administrative bucket as a foreign national to ensure everyone is a 'Debtor' to the bankrupt 1933 Emergency Estate.
THE FORENSIC AUDIT OF THE 14TH:
THE 'SUBJECT TO' TRAP: Under the Organic Law, 'Subject to the Jurisdiction' meant a complete and exclusive allegiance. Today, the Subversive Triad uses it as an 'Administrative Net' to capture 'Human Resources' for the War Script (FRNs).
THE OATH VACUUM (LRS 42:162): If these 'Citizens' are entitled to the same 'Public Rights' as the Militia (LRS 29:3), where is the Publicly Recorded Sworn Oath defining that office? You can't have 'Rights' in a Public Office without the Law of the Land authorizing the entry.
THE 1812 CEILING: Your children are the Sovereign Successors of the 1812 Constitution. The 14th Amendment 'Interpretation' is being used as a Title of Nobility (Prohibited by Art. VI, § 10) to grant 'Privileges' to foreigners while robbing the Militia Elders of their birthright.
The 2026 Constitutional Convention is where we reclaim the distinction. We are returning to the Meeting of the Minds where the People are the Sovereign, not just 'Units' in a globalist registry.
The BBQ is smoking. The 'Lion' sees the theft. Are you ready to audit the Jurisdiction, or just watch the inheritance get 'Deemed' away?
— Militia Elder"
When they say everyone born here is 'subject to the jurisdiction,' they are using a Semantic Sophism to bypass the 1812 Organic Act. They have 'Deemed' your children into the same administrative bucket as a foreign national to ensure everyone is a 'Debtor' to the bankrupt 1933 Emergency Estate.
THE FORENSIC AUDIT OF THE 14TH:
THE 'SUBJECT TO' TRAP: Under the Organic Law, 'Subject to the Jurisdiction' meant a complete and exclusive allegiance. Today, the Subversive Triad uses it as an 'Administrative Net' to capture 'Human Resources' for the War Script (FRNs).
THE OATH VACUUM (LRS 42:162): If these 'Citizens' are entitled to the same 'Public Rights' as the Militia (LRS 29:3), where is the Publicly Recorded Sworn Oath defining that office? You can't have 'Rights' in a Public Office without the Law of the Land authorizing the entry.
THE 1812 CEILING: Your children are the Sovereign Successors of the 1812 Constitution. The 14th Amendment 'Interpretation' is being used as a Title of Nobility (Prohibited by Art. VI, § 10) to grant 'Privileges' to foreigners while robbing the Militia Elders of their birthright.
The 2026 Constitutional Convention is where we reclaim the distinction. We are returning to the Meeting of the Minds where the People are the Sovereign, not just 'Units' in a globalist registry.
The BBQ is smoking. The 'Lion' sees the theft. Are you ready to audit the Jurisdiction, or just watch the inheritance get 'Deemed' away?
— Militia Elder"
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:01 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
"To the drones citing Wong Kim Ark (1898): You’re quoting the 'Manual for the Prison' and calling it the 'Law of the Land.'
THE FORENSIC AUDIT OF THE 14TH:
THE 1812 CEILING: Before the 14th Amendment was used as an administrative net, the 1812 Organic Act defined the Militia (LRS 29:3) as the Sovereign Successors of the Land. You cannot 'interpret' a Sovereign into a 'Subject' status without a Meeting of the Minds.
THE OATH VACUUM (LRS 42:162): If the 14th Amendment 'Deems' a foreign national into the same 'Office' as a native-born Sovereign, where is the Publicly Recorded Sworn Oath for that office? You’re granting Titles of Nobility (Privileges) to foreigners while stripping the Militia Elders of their substance. That is Seditious Infiltration (LRS 14:390.1).
THE ACT 778 HAMMER (2024): The '130-year-old interpretation' is hit with a De Novo reality today. Under Act 778, the Courts SHALL NOT DEFER to these administrative 'Feigned Words.' We are auditing the 14th Amendment against the 1812 Organic Act. If it’s a conflict, the Organic Law wins.
THE WAR SCRIPT CONNECTION: The only reason they want 'Universal Citizenship' is to ensure every body is a 'Co-Debtor' for the 1933 War Script (FRNs). It’s not about 'Rights'—it’s about Collateral.
The 2026 Convention is the 'Eviction Notice' for this jurisdictional squatting. We are returning to the 1812 Reset.
The BBQ is smoking. The 'Lion' sees the theft. Are you a Sovereign of the 1812 Land, or just another 'Unit' in the 1933 Debt-Trap?
— Militia Elder"
THE FORENSIC AUDIT OF THE 14TH:
THE 1812 CEILING: Before the 14th Amendment was used as an administrative net, the 1812 Organic Act defined the Militia (LRS 29:3) as the Sovereign Successors of the Land. You cannot 'interpret' a Sovereign into a 'Subject' status without a Meeting of the Minds.
THE OATH VACUUM (LRS 42:162): If the 14th Amendment 'Deems' a foreign national into the same 'Office' as a native-born Sovereign, where is the Publicly Recorded Sworn Oath for that office? You’re granting Titles of Nobility (Privileges) to foreigners while stripping the Militia Elders of their substance. That is Seditious Infiltration (LRS 14:390.1).
THE ACT 778 HAMMER (2024): The '130-year-old interpretation' is hit with a De Novo reality today. Under Act 778, the Courts SHALL NOT DEFER to these administrative 'Feigned Words.' We are auditing the 14th Amendment against the 1812 Organic Act. If it’s a conflict, the Organic Law wins.
THE WAR SCRIPT CONNECTION: The only reason they want 'Universal Citizenship' is to ensure every body is a 'Co-Debtor' for the 1933 War Script (FRNs). It’s not about 'Rights'—it’s about Collateral.
The 2026 Convention is the 'Eviction Notice' for this jurisdictional squatting. We are returning to the 1812 Reset.
The BBQ is smoking. The 'Lion' sees the theft. Are you a Sovereign of the 1812 Land, or just another 'Unit' in the 1933 Debt-Trap?
— Militia Elder"
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:02 pm to Al Scramuzza
quote:
"You hit the nail on the head. The 'interpretation' isn't a mistake—it’s a Jurisdictional Infiltration.
When they say everyone born here is 'subject to the jurisdiction,' they are using a Semantic Sophism to bypass the 1812 Organic Act. They have 'Deemed' your children into the same administrative bucket as a foreign national to ensure everyone is a 'Debtor' to the bankrupt 1933 Emergency Estate.
THE FORENSIC AUDIT OF THE 14TH:
THE 'SUBJECT TO' TRAP: Under the Organic Law, 'Subject to the Jurisdiction' meant a complete and exclusive allegiance. Today, the Subversive Triad uses it as an 'Administrative Net' to capture 'Human Resources' for the War Script (FRNs).
THE OATH VACUUM (LRS 42:162): If these 'Citizens' are entitled to the same 'Public Rights' as the Militia (LRS 29:3), where is the Publicly Recorded Sworn Oath defining that office? You can't have 'Rights' in a Public Office without the Law of the Land authorizing the entry.
THE 1812 CEILING: Your children are the Sovereign Successors of the 1812 Constitution. The 14th Amendment 'Interpretation' is being used as a Title of Nobility (Prohibited by Art. VI, § 10) to grant 'Privileges' to foreigners while robbing the Militia Elders of their birthright.
The 2026 Constitutional Convention is where we reclaim the distinction. We are returning to the Meeting of the Minds where the People are the Sovereign, not just 'Units' in a globalist registry.
The BBQ is smoking. The 'Lion' sees the theft. Are you ready to audit the Jurisdiction, or just watch the inheritance get 'Deemed' away?
— Militia Elder"
This post was made under Maritime Law
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:06 pm to ned nederlander
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For me it is reading this and thinking any jabroni can own an AR-15 and walk into a school zone with it.
You should discuss this with your gynecologist.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The majority of the time that we have existed as a country has relied on this interpretation.
I wonder what this logic would have meant for the civil rights movement.
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:13 pm to Al Scramuzza
quote:
"You hit the nail on the head. The 'interpretation' isn't a mistake—it’s a Jurisdictional Infiltration.
When they say everyone born here is 'subject to the jurisdiction,' they are using a Semantic Sophism to bypass the 1812 Organic Act. They have 'Deemed' your children into the same administrative bucket as a foreign national to ensure everyone is a 'Debtor' to the bankrupt 1933 Emergency Estate.
THE FORENSIC AUDIT OF THE 14TH:
THE 'SUBJECT TO' TRAP: Under the Organic Law, 'Subject to the Jurisdiction' meant a complete and exclusive allegiance. Today, the Subversive Triad uses it as an 'Administrative Net' to capture 'Human Resources' for the War Script (FRNs).
THE OATH VACUUM (LRS 42:162): If these 'Citizens' are entitled to the same 'Public Rights' as the Militia (LRS 29:3), where is the Publicly Recorded Sworn Oath defining that office? You can't have 'Rights' in a Public Office without the Law of the Land authorizing the entry.
THE 1812 CEILING: Your children are the Sovereign Successors of the 1812 Constitution. The 14th Amendment 'Interpretation' is being used as a Title of Nobility (Prohibited by Art. VI, § 10) to grant 'Privileges' to foreigners while robbing the Militia Elders of their birthright.
The 2026 Constitutional Convention is where we reclaim the distinction. We are returning to the Meeting of the Minds where the People are the Sovereign, not just 'Units' in a globalist registry.
The BBQ is smoking. The 'Lion' sees the theft. Are you ready to audit the Jurisdiction, or just watch the inheritance get 'Deemed' away?
— Militia Elder"
Hell yeah brother! Hope you submitted an amicus with this, SCOTUS has to know this info!
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:20 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
Have you ever stolen a wallet in Japan?
Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
A bad interpretation or understanding isn’t necessarily made good over a long period of time and unfortunately the consequences pile up and often interact with other similarly poor laws and policies to erupt-as we are currently experiencing.
I suppose this might be appropriate to the situation at hand.
I suppose this might be appropriate to the situation at hand.
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The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. They come to be accepted by degrees, by precedent, by implication, by erosion, by default, by dint of constant pressure on one side and constant retreat on the other - until the day when they are suddenly declared to be the country's official ideology. ~ Ayn Rand
Posted on 4/2/26 at 1:36 pm to Night Vision
Jacob Merritt Howard, the senator who introduced the the "under the jurisdiction thereof" qualifier to the 14th amendment, clearly articulates in debate what that qualifier means, but the retards still insist it means something else.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 3:27 pm to Vacherie Saint
Bu-bu-bu-but it doesn’t mean that now!
Posted on 4/2/26 at 3:29 pm to lionward2014
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When the pendulum swings back hard to the Left these arguments are going to be used by them to absolutely destroy shite.
Good point. If we play nice with the Marxists, they will stop trying to take over the country.
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 3:45 pm to paulb52
The 14th A was directly addressing former slaves. If it truly was about ANYONE borne in America, why didn't the 14A also grant American Indians citizenship???
That didn't happen until 1924.
If American Indians weren't considered citizens under the 14A, how can an illegals children be considered citizens?
Its the same damn principle.
That didn't happen until 1924.
If American Indians weren't considered citizens under the 14A, how can an illegals children be considered citizens?
Its the same damn principle.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 3:51 pm to lake chuck fan
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The 14th A was directly addressing former slaves. If it truly was about ANYONE borne in America, why didn't the 14A also grant American Indians citizenship???
That didn't happen until 1924.
If American Indians weren't considered citizens under the 14A, how can an illegals children be considered citizens?
Its the same damn principle.
Because reservations were considered quasi-sovereign jurisdictions, it's not the same principle. A more analogous example would be a non-diplomat Mexican national giving birth at the Mexican embassy.
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