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re: Nike to be removed from the S&P 100. WOKE go Broke

Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:03 am to
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:03 am to
The big three alternative brands have to hurt too


On Cloud
Altra
Hokas

All make superior shoes
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
20210 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:06 am to
quote:

USAID gone

Rap no longer in the top 40

Nike crashes


You should dig deeper than what you see in memes
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:08 am to
quote:

To be fair this isnt because they went woke

They made some god awful fundamental business decisions over last decade that allowed competitors to gain market share


Yeah this thread is strange.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:13 am to
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20524 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:20 am to
quote:

I think this is more about:
Lululemon, Vuori, Fabletics, Athleta, etc. for clothes.
Hoka, Brooks, On Clouds, Saucony, Asics, Adidas, Altra for running shoes.

This argument would hold water for any other brand. However Nike was Americana at its best. An icon
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:23 am to
MSB thread a few weeks ago covered this in real detail destroying silly claims like "Woke"

quote:

LONG POST, but interesting read if you want to know how and why Nike cratered so quickly.

TLDR version - they abondoned specialty shops in favor of online shopping 10 yrs ago and now can't get that marketshare back. And restructured like a PE company internally, all to their detriment.

Now, all they have is hoops and urban markets.
...

DETAILED Version

They've basically lost all of their running/recreation maket share and can't get it back.

10 yrs ago, after their new CEO took over after Phil, and had the genius idea to basically abandon specialty brick and morter shops and thought all of their specialty shopping should be online. By doing this they fricked over their long established mom-and-pops/indy chains, and specialty shops. Before they had like 75% of the shelf space in those shops and no one else could make a dent because of their long established relationships.

Once they fricked over those specialty running, recreation, shops, massive amounts of shelf space was now available and smaller brands inked deals with those shops. It's no coincidence there has been an enoumrous rise of brands like Onn Cloud, Brooks, Hoka, Aisics, New Balance, etc.

Before they never had the opportunity to get their shoes in the hands of runners and common buyers. But once Nike abandoned that market, these other brands could finally flourish... And they did.

Years later, Nike fired that CEO, and tried to get back in those shops, but the inventory space was gone and it ain't coming back. The very shelves they dominated, and voluntarily gave up, are now off limits. I think they have around 15% of shelf space now and now have no innovation or reputation among runners who finally abandoned Nikes and looked at other brands which were actually superior.

Add all of that to Nike also killing all their specialty divisions (Nike Soccer, Nike Running, Nike Baseball, Nike Tennis, etc) and merged them under basically just few umbrellas. By doing so, they lost decades of specialty knowledge and market expertise and contacts and forced people out who had previously been division heads in favor or a more Private Equity, streamlined approach.

Add all that together and that's here you are today. The new Nike CEO (came in around 23 or 24)is actually an old topflight Nike engineer. And Oldschool Nike heydey guy. He knows what the company needs to go back to, and has made lots of changes internally to get back to the old Phil days, but it's too late now. He can't get that market dominance back in the foreseeable future.

A market Nike spent 45 years building evaporated in less than a decade.

Now they basically survive on Basketball and Retro/collector shoes, and Jordan's.

Recently went shoe shopping for ultra comfort running shoes and the comparable Nike was also $30-50 more than the comparable Brooks or Hoka and close to $80 more than the comparable New Balance. Not a winning strategy...
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:24 am to
SlowwokePro putting in that work!
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
19002 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:58 am to
I was not able to participate in this boycott because I don't think I've ever bought anything nike to begin with. Their clothing is overpriced and I always preferred under armor and new balance shoes.


Posted by Butch Baum
Member since Oct 2007
3646 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 10:42 am to
quote:

quote: I’ll never buy Nike again due to their support for racist Kapernick. We haven't bought one thing with their logo on it since they promoted Kapernick. I hope they implode


LOL….have run since 80s-90s and Nike Air Pegasus was my shoe early on, then in a run group got Brooks with a wider toe box and was amazed how much better it felt…then moved on to Hoka somewhere in the 2010s thought they looked funny at first, but have not bought Nike shite since way back when, their shows were just too narrow for my fat feet and never had to pull away due to their bullshite
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
3747 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 12:02 pm to
It will be around $15 a share by this time next year. Screw them
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
159966 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 12:09 pm to
What in his post was inaccurate?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/6/26 at 12:20 pm to
Nothing at all the traffic cop is getting it done!
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3994 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 12:34 pm to


... the very second Kapercrap bent that knee

The Red Castle intentions were known ...

the rest is history

... and here we are today ...

Enjoy the show

Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
8848 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

To be fair this isnt because they went woke They made some god awful fundamental business decisions over last decade that allowed competitors to gain market share
so their woke bs couldn’t be a part of “god awful fundamental business decisions over last decade that allowed competitors to gain market share“?

Ie…pushing customers into the arms of others. Been a bit since I took biz fundamentals 101…but that kind of sounds like a no-no.
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
159966 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 1:44 pm to
Facts shouldn’t be controversial.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15418 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 4:44 pm to
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All those competitors existed previously when Nike was on top. What do you think changed?


Athleisure absolutely blew up during Covid, and the 2 stalwarts, Nike and lululemon, have lost tremendous ground to all the other companies.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
10614 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 5:22 pm to
A great man once said, "Republicans buy shoes too."

Nike forgot.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
10614 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 5:26 pm to
And a lot of those awful business decisions were made by people who were more interested in social issues than just selling shoes.

So yes, going woke is why they are going broke.
Posted by uggabugga
Maryland
Member since Aug 2024
5973 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:19 pm to
No surprise. 100% white female leadership

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Posted by JayDub
Member since May 2023
369 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 6:42 am to
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I think...


No, no you do not!
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