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re: NIH funds studies re: potential effects of C19 vaccination on menstrual cycles
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:32 am to the808bass
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:32 am to the808bass
And if I'm on the jury, I'll vote to acquit you. 
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Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:33 am to Tiguar
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It’s been noted a few times in people I’ve seen, anecdotally. Doesn’t seem to impact fertility in any meaningful way.
Thanks for chiming in, Dr. Mengele...
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:34 am to Tiguar
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In addition, Israel (an antivax favorite these days) is much further along as far as population wide ADR detection than we are and has said nothing.
Hypothetical:
If the Israeli government discovered that there are some major long term issues with the vaccine (lets keep it as just fertility), would they actually let that information out?
The dynamics (Palestinians are having quite a few more children than Jews) would make for a political firestorm.
I mean, can you imagine the Jewish population finding out that their future population is now in doubt as a people?
Granted this is hypothetical (for now), but under those circumstances J can’t imagine their government allowing that information to get out.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:35 am to Tiguar
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The vaccine has been out since December 2020 for the public and the original EUA population for over a year with lots of women of childbearing age receiving the vaccine.
There's been almost no children born to vaccinated women yet. There's no way to have studied anything yet.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:38 am to the808bass
Are you turning antivax? I’ve been giving you the benefit of the doubt but this thread is a really poor look.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:41 am to tiger91
The situation you describe is a poignant example of why mandates are a poor policy.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:42 am to Tiguar
Lol. No. Posting a link from the NIH is a bad look?
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:43 am to Tiguar
It’s not anti vax to point out that we haven’t had enough time to conduct ANY meaningful research. It’s pro science.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:49 am to Tiguar
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Are you turning antivax?
Ah the hubris of a religious nut: To question is to be AGAINST!
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:49 am to Bard
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Thalidomide was tested for 7-10 years in Europe before approval.
It wasn't. It was synthesized in 1954, approved in Germany in 1956, and licensed elsewhere. Side effects were reported in 1-1.5 years. Widukind Lenz, the pediatrician instrumental in discovering the teratogen, insisted that 'thalidomide was released for sale before carefully controlled animal and clinical experiments had been done." Even further, there were only two common test subjects which produced limb malformations, rabbits and nonhuman primates. Thalidomide has barely any effects on mouse and rat models, and doesn't seem to have significant effects in hamsters, pigs, cats, dogs, ferrets, and chickens. Widukind Lenz suspected thalidomide was the cause of birth defects in 1960/61, with papers published in Lancet by 1962. Physicians from different areas where the drug didn't have approval were hesitant to make a direct conclusion, but noticed problems around the same time. The condensed timeline from synthetization to sale was the problem.
This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 11:07 am
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:51 am to Bard
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The rush into vaccinations, to me, is a far greater danger than the disease itself.
I agree.
And as for any lurking Vax Nazis, stay TF away from my kids!!!
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:52 am to beebefootballfan
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So they are tracking the 15-18 yr old demographic who are trying to get pregnant?
Why wouldn't they know within a five-year window? If there is a link to something like fertility, we should have case reports within a year.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 11:02 am to Tiguar
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Are you turning antivax?
Are you turning antiFACTS?
Posted on 9/3/21 at 11:06 am to the808bass
So it really does go to the uterus, then?
Posted on 9/3/21 at 11:21 am to crazy4lsu
quote:And it was denied approval in the US.
It wasn't. It was synthesized in 1954, approved in Germany in 1956, and licensed elsewhere. Side effects were reported in 1-1.5 years. Widukind Lenz, the pediatrician instrumental in discovering the teratogen, insisted that 'thalidomide was released for sale before carefully controlled animal and clinical experiments had been done." Even further, there were only two common test subjects which produced limb malformations, rabbits and nonhuman primates. Thalidomide has barely any effects on mouse and rat models, and doesn't seem to have significant effects in hamsters, pigs, cats, dogs, ferrets, and chickens. Widukind Lenz suspected thalidomide was the cause of birth defects in 1960/61, with papers published in Lancet by 1962. Physicians from different areas where the drug didn't have approval were hesitant to make a direct conclusion, but noticed problems around the same time. The condensed timeline from synthetization to sale was the problem.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:21 pm to crazy4lsu
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It wasn't. It was synthesized in 1954, approved in Germany in 1956,
Thanks. What I had read said it had been tested far longer.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:32 pm to mmcgrath
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And it was denied approval in the US.
Denied approval because the thalidomide issues were already discovered overseas. It had already made it into testing in the US causing 17 children to be born with thalidomide-caused deformities.
The FDA refused to approve it due to one man: Oldham Kelsey. He refused to give into pressure from the pharma and was eventually given a Presidential award for distinguished service from the federal government for not allowing thalidomide to be approved for sale in the US.
Thus because of lack of sufficient testing time, thousands of kids across Europe were born with horrible deformities and thousands more died as a result of miscarriage.
Remind me again, how long have these "vaccines" been in existence?
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:40 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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The term “doesn’t seem” should never be used when advocating medical treatment/medication.
100% incorrect. you just might not be comfortable with the implications. Many things in the realm of treatment/medication/health have tons of ambiguity and very few things are 100% certain/predictable.
way too absolute of a statement. many circumstances warrant 'doesn't seem to' as a descriptor and not describing the potential ambiguity would be highly improper.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:27 pm to the808bass
I have a close friend who has had 2-3 week long cycles since getting the Pfizer jab. She got it right when it was rolled out because she works in a hospital. I’m assuming it’s a clotting issue
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