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re: Nice to see the NY Times doubling down on global warming

Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:01 pm to
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Highs hit 90 as heat wave continues to grip Southern California


Did you even read your link? Tying a record high temp going back to 2009 is not 150 years ago.

That's like me saying "I shot a 90 at golf on Jan. 1. Best score I've had all year."


Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:02 pm to
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and if climate change is not reined in


"Behold...here lies man's hubris". TLF
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:03 pm to
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Read the fricking IPCC report.

The IPCC is the Source of the Hoax!
Posted by navy
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:09 pm to
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Hoax


this.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:21 pm to
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I wasn't saying that this particular winter in a vacuum is proof of global warming.
So you're NOT saying weather volatility is a function of global warming? Because it seemed so when you rhetorically asked:

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you people realize that part of global warming is just more volatile seasons in general right?

Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:24 pm to
Boom goes the dynamite.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:28 pm to
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So you're NOT saying weather volatility is a function of global warming? Because it seemed so when you rhetorically asked:



Holy shite are you really this thick?

ONE season doesn't mean anything.

Over time, weather volatility is a symptom of global warming.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:32 pm to
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Holy shite are you really this thick?
Apparently.

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ONE season doesn't mean anything.

Over time, weather volatility is a symptom of global warming.
I'd consider a ONE season anomalous event to be "weather volatility"... but that's just me.
This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted by fleaux
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:32 pm to
BS, thats just your justification to say "extreme weather" is caused by man made global warming
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:35 pm to
I'm skeptical of both sides of this argument as they're both being backed by big money and constantly trumping up shite. One side displays a purposefully disproportionate method and has no credibility and the other side doesn't seem to match to models well and i'd question how much we know about the earths climate altogether and what drives it. I'd also like to know the ideal temp and what makes the scenario.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:36 pm to
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GTFO with that BS

Those documents, maps, and drawings by explorers showing 250yrs of steady glacier retreat are fake. They must be.



Right.

You've been to Glacier Bay, if I remember correctly. When George Vancouver sailed past, the area where the lodge is locate was under ice. When John Muir came in the mid 1800's, it had retreated 40-50 miles or more. Now it's around 90 miles and fairly stable.

This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297045 posts
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:38 pm to
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I'm skeptical of both sides of this argument as they're both being backed by big money and constantly trumping up shite. One side displays a purposefully disproportionate method and has no credibility and the other side doesn't seem to match to models well and i'd question how much we know about the earths climate altogether and what drives it. I'd also like to know the ideal temp and what makes the scenario.


Yep, lots of wishful thinking on both sides.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:45 pm to
Denying that humans can do anything to stop climate change is perfectly fine and most without an agenda would agree with it.

Denying climate change altogether is indicative of ignorance or insanity.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:45 pm to
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you've got to be willfully ignorant to ignore the mountains of evidence we have at this point but I guess this this is the poli board...


What mountain of evidence that man has affected climate??

How can you argue against global warming when you liberals just make it whatever you want it to be?
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:45 pm to
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ONE season doesn't mean anything. Over time, weather volatility is a symptom of global warming.


Over time, weather volatility is NOT volatility. Volatility is big changes in very short periods of time...like this winter.

WV is an artificial construct made up by warmers like everything else they make up when their predictions since 1990 constantly prove to be wrong. And their models constantly prove to be wrong.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:49 pm to
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Denying climate change altogether is indicative of ignorance or insanity.


Climate changes... over thousands of years. It's natural. Always has happened. Always will happen. Man has nothing to do with it and there are no catastrophic results. Weather has always caused floods, famine, drought, hurricanes, etc. That's not 'change'...that's normal.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:49 pm to
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Denying climate change altogether is indicative of ignorance or insanity


No one here is denying that the climate changes throughout history.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:58 pm to
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Over time, weather volatility is a symptom of global warming.


Prove it.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 2/8/14 at 3:01 pm to
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you've got to be willfully ignorant to ignore the mountains of evidence we have at this point but I guess this this is the poli board...



I could say the same thing about abortion...
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 2/8/14 at 3:03 pm to
Well, there ARE catastrophic results but they are the same catastrophic results that have always occurred.

A new ice age would certainly qualify as catastrophic to modern society, for example. About a third of the current land area populated by humans would become completely inhospitable and hundreds of millions would freeze and starve to death.

Likewise, if the temperatures were to reach the levels they were during the early cambrian period the majority of earth's modern agriculture would cease and most major cities would suffer prolonged or permanent blackouts.
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