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re: New York Times Tech Columnist: Twitter Too Powerful
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:56 am to Celery
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:56 am to Celery
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Seems to me wanting the government to add more regulation to what a company can and can’t do is more Marxist than publishing newspapers.
It isn't adding regulations. It in enforcing them as they should be. You don't get to decide if you are a publisher or not. If you are or are not is determined by how you handle and control content. They are currently mislabeled because they want to not have to worry about being sued. And the gov't is corrupt and in bed with them.
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:02 am to JudgeHolden
The President has the loudest megaphone on the planet should he wish to use it. He doesn't need Twitter.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:05 am to JudgeHolden
They are braver than the congressmen who didn't put the winner in office. I call for a recount and everyone afraid to vote should step aside.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:10 am to PastaTiger
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The President has the loudest megaphone on the planet should he wish to use it. He doesn't need Twitter.
That’s true but not complete. Trump’s power was based on Twitter. That creates an odd situation in which a single-owner private company has immense control over an elected leader.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 6:13 am to JudgeHolden
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Silencing Trump has caught people’s attention
I think you have a point here. The media has always been able to deceptively manipulate people. The outright silencing of Trump shines too much light on the propaganda industry.
Also, old money (power) hates new money (power). The media "elites" hate that they are no longer the top dogs in controlling the narrative. There is always power struggles within the "elites" as well to see who has the most power. See Nancy vs the squad. Traditional media vs big tech is an extension of this.
The NYT article is more of a jealous power play than actually thinking that banning Trump was a bad thing for free speech.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 6:15 am to Stealth Matrix
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Maybe they're in the middle of an epiphany
Lol now that they're all in power again they're going to entertain the appearance of a semblance of journalism, its two card monty
Posted on 1/10/21 at 6:36 am to JudgeHolden
Twitter and Facebook do not hold monopolies on communication. The president still holds the ability to get messages out to wide audiences via TV, government websites, radio, etc. These are private companies and signs a terms of agreement for using their product just like everyone else does.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 6:39 am to BornAndRaised_LA
Goes much beyond just the President.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 6:59 am to davyjones
It does, but the same logic applies. A private company doesn’t have to provide services if it violates their terms of service agreements or even if it violates their beliefs.
Burwell vs. Hobby Lobby was rooted in religious freedom, but the point remains that the employees could work elsewhere if the wanted birth control covered on their insurance.
Masterpiece Cakes doesn’t have to provide a cake for a homosexual wedding.
Twitter doesn’t have to provide a platform for alternate facts or speech it disagrees with.
Burwell vs. Hobby Lobby was rooted in religious freedom, but the point remains that the employees could work elsewhere if the wanted birth control covered on their insurance.
Masterpiece Cakes doesn’t have to provide a cake for a homosexual wedding.
Twitter doesn’t have to provide a platform for alternate facts or speech it disagrees with.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 7:00 am to BornAndRaised_LA
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Twitter and Facebook do not hold monopolies on communication.
Eh. It’s pretty damn close. What about Apple?
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The president still holds the ability to get messages out to wide audiences via TV, government websites, radio, etc.
We’ve already seen the major networks, including Fox, cut Trumps speeches off. AT&T, Comcast,etc. are considering banning channels like Newsmax, OAN, Fox, etc. Is NPR obliged to cover the President?
The media has God-like power and it’s not acknowledged enough. In fact, they’ve played perhaps THE most important role in every revolution since at least the 18th-19th centuries.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 7:16 am to Mohican
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We’ve already seen the major networks, including Fox, cut Trumps speeches off. AT&T, Comcast,etc. are considering banning channels like Newsmax, OAN, Fox, etc. Is NPR obliged to cover the President?
The media has God-like power and it’s not acknowledged enough. In fact, they’ve played perhaps THE most important role in every revolution since at least the 18th-19th centuries.
The media has always been biased and in this country has basically been its own political system from the start...with newspapers slanting stories and backing issues since Colonial times. Let’s not pretend the media has ever granted balanced access for issues it disagrees with, on either side. It’s why candidates for office travel for speeches and debate publicly, because that’s their best opportunity to go unfiltered.
That said, the media is a collection of private entities. They can, and will, cover and provide what they wish.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 7:20 am to BornAndRaised_LA
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That said, the media is a collection of private entities. They can, and will, cover and provide what they wish.
Agreed. As long as it is acknowledged how much power they have.
If a media company (or social media company) controls 90% of the dialogue, then that’s more powerful than, well, the President.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 7:30 am to Mohican
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If a media company (or social media company) controls 90% of the dialogue, then that’s more powerful than, well, the President.
Twitter has power because we and Trump gave it to them. Platforms are pretty fleeting. The President and Congress hold more power overall.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 7:50 am to BornAndRaised_LA
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Twitter has power because we and Trump gave it to them. Platforms are pretty fleeting. The President and Congress hold more power overall.
We witnessed every major social media company, and media company - in lock step - essentially ban the sitting President, whom 75 million people voted for 2 months ago.
That is power. That is more powerful than one man.
It’s all fine when this power resides on your political side, but it may not always and it will definitely result in the silencing of political opposition going forward. It won’t simply be about Trump.
Not only that, but narrative control defines truth. We’re not so far from a single narrative being told that will define our reality as a society (already is down to two). Again, that’s okay if the narrative fits into you political worldview.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 7:53 am to Strannix
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Lol now that they're all in power again they're going to entertain the appearance of a semblance of journalism, its two card monty
This^
Notice there wasn't a peep of concern from these lying, immoral fricks before the election. It's all smoke and mirrors and there isn't a shred of honor in the whole lot of them.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 7:53 am to Mohican
You are exaggerating because his preferred private platform banned him. There are a multitude of platforms out there. If ALL are against him, when they never work together otherwise, it says something.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:04 am to Barroom
This is the point in the revolution where the useful idiots get stood against the wall and shot. Big tech companies are are about to have their hands tied and their blindfolds put on.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:07 am to BornAndRaised_LA
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You are exaggerating because his preferred private platform banned him.
Am I exaggerating though? We’ll find out soon enough. And it wasn’t just his platform, or just him. It was all of them at the same time.
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If ALL are against him, when they never work together otherwise, it says something
It does say something. It’s like the railroads controlling who can do what business out West. If you don’t conform to our political preferences, you won’t have an online presence in a world that operates almost solely online.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:52 am to Bench McElroy
Richard Dawkins is an idiot
Quoting his opinion on Philosophy/Politics as something of value says a lot about the efficacy of your brain.
Quoting his opinion on Philosophy/Politics as something of value says a lot about the efficacy of your brain.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:53 am to Mohican
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If you don’t conform to our political preferences, you won’t have an online presence in a world that operates almost solely online.
Does the WH not have a website?
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