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re: New York State Just Legalized Abortion up to Birth

Posted on 1/23/19 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by VitoAndolini
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 9:02 pm to
It’s pathetic and weird how hard you try to troll

Seek help
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 9:06 pm to
Respond to me again if you enjoy sucking dick
Posted by VitoAndolini
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 9:22 pm to
This country has lost it's mind.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 9:27 pm to
Very tacky to be cheering and such but I do support this. It’s for when a mother’s health is in danger which seems like a justified reason to me.
Posted by JustLSUit
North Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
3404 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:06 pm to
Always frickin New York, crazy arse people. Not surprised
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:43 pm to
Summary of counterpoints for those who don't want to read 30+ pages while having their browser freeze up due to DisplacedBuckeye's typical abuse of laughing emojis.

- It's only for medical emergencies.

- It's only in one state.

- Abortion is legal, therefore not wrong.

- There are no objective moral values.



Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6433 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:54 pm to
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Well, it's likely that the child would have became another Dem/lib, so in that regard it's a good thing.

So, it's a good thing to butcher babies wholesale for profit and body parts on the odds they may end up progressive?

You don't really believe that do you?

Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15541 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:57 pm to
I haven't read all the pages here, but this could be a good thing. At least, in the sense that sometimes "things have to get worse before they get better".

This might open the door to a Supreme Court case, that could ultimately be decided by a 6-3 conservative majority after RBG passes.

Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22098 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:23 pm to
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but I do support this. It’s for when a mother’s health is in danger which seems like a justified reason to me.
what constitutes the mother's health? What degree does the mother's health have to be impacted and who decides that? Does that include mother's mental health? Can you abort an 8 month pregnancy because of depression and the like?
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:27 pm to
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It’s for when a mother’s health is in danger which seems like a justified reason to me

Don't buy that.

From 1973 both sides of the issue have kept track insofar as they've been able of the reasons given for having abortions. Both sides have been very consistent and show that 4% to 6% of abortions are for the health of the mother.

No distinctions are generally made between true dangers to a mother's health, like an ectopic pregnancy (which of necessity would be an early term abortion), and more vague and less quantifiable dangers dealing with a mother's mental and emotional health.

Clearly, the 4% to 6% may be weighted in favor of concerns not necessarily mortal to mother.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:47 pm to
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what constitutes the mother's health? What degree does the mother's health have to be impacted and who decides that? Does that include mother's mental health? Can you abort an 8 month pregnancy because of depression and the like?


Why are you being logical when you could be gleefully dancing around the Pandora’s box NY just opened?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:56 pm to
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Why are you being logical when you could be gleefully dancing around the Pandora’s box NY just opened?



I'm not a fan of the vagueness, but I'm not going to argue about abortions out of convenience at 38 weeks yet either. The bill says a medical professional has to make the call after 24 weeks, so I guess we'll see.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22098 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:15 am to
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The bill says a medical professional has to make the call after 24 weeks, so I guess we'll see.
abortion doctors are medical professionals, and they apparently have no moral trouble with delivering a viable baby 90% and then sucking it's brains out, and getting paid to do it. You have to be psychotic to do that
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 12:16 am
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:26 am to
Good law

Health of the mother comes first

Look for more states to follow
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39015 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:34 am to
I’m not going to lie, the video of the celebrating this passing is disturbing. These people are deranged.
Posted by Athletix
Member since Dec 2012
5142 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:49 am to
To be in favor of the killing of viable healthy babies makes you a bad person. Seriously how can one be so freaking stupid to not see how the “health of the mother” will be abused. “It’s up to the doctor”, so it’s up to doctors to make a judgement call?? I don’t melt over any political issue except for this one. Its so messed up how so many can be ok and even celebrate the death of babies. May God have mercy on your soul.
Posted by TrueTiger
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82365 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:54 am to
This law is unconstitutionally sexist and transphobic in that it only grants ciswomen this right to the exclusion of all others.
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