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re: New York State Just Legalized Abortion up to Birth
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:51 pm to RebelExpress38
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:51 pm to RebelExpress38
Is it too late to abort Nancy ?
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:52 pm to The Spleen
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I'm simply pointing out the inaccuracy in the thread title.
Nothing inaccurate about it. Abortion up to birth is now legal so long as you can get a medical practitioner to sign off that it’s for your “health,” whatever the hell that means. I’m sure the limits of that will be stretched and “shouted” by the pro abortion crowd who cheered when this evil bill passed.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:58 pm to VitoAndolini
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I’m making a case for why abortion should be illegal
Then get to it.
"I believe" and "I don't know" are fine, but they don't lend credibility to your argument.
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Obvious troll is obvious
You can keep repeating this, but you're either going to make your case or you're going to move on. Those are your options.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:05 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
The case is simple. I don’t know how many times I have to say it. I think you just don’t like it because you don’t have a response to it. I’ll lay it out again so you can read it slow.
No one knows when life begins (you have admitted this)
Said organism has unique DNA, unique blood type, a heart beat, brain activity, and has demonstrated the ability to survive outside of the mother.
Therefore....
You should not kill it unless you can provide clear evidence that it’s not alive.
That’s called a concise, logical argument. Something you have never made.
No one knows when life begins (you have admitted this)
Said organism has unique DNA, unique blood type, a heart beat, brain activity, and has demonstrated the ability to survive outside of the mother.
Therefore....
You should not kill it unless you can provide clear evidence that it’s not alive.
That’s called a concise, logical argument. Something you have never made.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:17 pm to VitoAndolini
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The case is simple. I don’t know how many times I have to say it. I think you just don’t like it because you don’t have a response to it. I’ll lay it out again so you can read it slow.
None of this supports your claims. Not a word of it.
Just more emotion and more assumption.
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No one knows when life begins (you have admitted this)
Correct. That includes you. You still draw a line somewhere, though.
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Said organism has unique DNA, unique blood type, a heart beat, brain activity, and has demonstrated the ability to survive outside of the mother.
Therefore....
You should not kill it unless you can provide clear evidence that it’s not alive.
Neat. Now explain why you should be able to tell New York what their laws should be.
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That’s called a concise, logical argument. Something you have never made.
No, it isn't.
Unique blood type? Really?
Surviving outside the mother? That shouldn't matter if you don't draw a line somewhere.
Your points are garbage and mostly insignificant.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:18 pm to VitoAndolini
Still waiting to hear whose alter you are, too.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:18 pm to VitoAndolini
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That’s called a concise, logical argument. Something you have never made.
He doesn't do that. He trolls. Plays devils advocate. Simply takes the opposite position that you are taking, whatever that may be. He just does this for his own amusement. I'd move on, if I were you.
Abortion is a disgusting practice and the procedure should be VERY limited as to when it can used. If the life of the mother is in immediate danger and there's no other way, then I can see the point. To use it as contraception is simply abhorrent and should be, in my opinion, illegal.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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None of this supports your claims. Not a word of it. Just more emotion and more assumption.
That’s because it’s not part of my claim you fricking moron.
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Now explain why you should be able to tell New York what their laws should be.
Never said I should. Just making a case for why I don’t believe it should be legal.
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Unique blood type? Really? Surviving outside the mother? That shouldn't matter if you don't draw a line somewhere. Your points are garbage and mostly insignificant.
Maybe. Maybe not. It’s still better than having no points.
Now run along little troll
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:30 pm to VitoAndolini
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That’s because it’s not part of my claim you fricking moron.
Obviously, which is why I pointed it out. Stay focused.
I know appeal to authority went right over your head. Do you at least know what an ad hominem is?
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Never said I should. Just making a case for why I don’t believe it should be legal.
You can't even do that coherently. You don't know, but you think you have the answers...
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Maybe. Maybe not. It’s still better than having no points.
I've made several points. You've either ignored them, moved past them because you didn't have a rebuttal, or misrepresented my position.
You'll have to do better than that if you plan on sticking it out.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:34 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Frick. Off. Troll.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:37 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
The democratic states will continue to lead the way in the abomination of our nation. States rights and all that.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:37 pm to VitoAndolini
I accept your concession.
Good talk.
Good talk.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:41 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Aren't bills like this counterproductive for libs trying to remain in power? Unless the argument is that, on average, an aborted life has >50% to end up voting conservative.
Why run the risk when you can import democrats from South of the Border? Don’t have to wait 18 years either, these guys vote dem immediately.
Plus you clearly don’t understand how manufacturing threats drives money into the political machine. People secure in their status quo don’t donate money but if your 2A rights are threatened or abortion rights are threatened people will donate like crazy. It’s a shake down.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:48 pm to DeafJam73
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The fact that they think this is something to celebrate speaks volumes about their character.
I'm guessing the death penalty is still "cruel and unusual" though, right?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:49 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Relax. You are clearly jaded (I find your stories hard to believe btw--you either have awful luck findings good doctors or are lying). All doctors can do is make recommendations--its up to you to follow them. With the level of distrust you have, I would stop going if I were you.
I haven’t had trouble finding a doctor. I said I sold to doctors so I’ve met thousands. A ton of great ones but some shady ones too. Go read the website for the OIG and see all the doctors who have sold out their patients and their integrity for money. Now consider they catch maybe 1-5% of what is listed.
Of course they deserve their license removed but by then it’s too late. Kids have died. And you catch that one there’s another to take their place. Here’s a thought, don’t make the barbaric shite legal in the first place.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:52 pm to BugAC
Medical ethicists are already arguing that born viable infants arent persons and could ethically be killed. Is this really a shock?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:53 pm to SDVTiger
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You are dem so of course you dont care about killing babies
If his mom would have felt the same way about him, we'd have one less liberal to tolerate!
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:53 pm to VitoAndolini
You're getting boring.
Your arguments were shite and you were called out for it. Don't be a pussy about it. Just accept it and move on.
Your arguments were shite and you were called out for it. Don't be a pussy about it. Just accept it and move on.
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