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re: New York State Just Legalized Abortion up to Birth

Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:03 am to
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:03 am to
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There are no objective moral values. 


Yes they are. Millions and millions of people believe abortion is bad.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 6:08 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:22 am to
The responses on this thread from our resident "reasonable" Leftists should be enough evidence to convince you holdouts:

The Left are Sociopaths...

The Left are evil...

In the face of overwhelming truth, they will double down on their lies...

The Left can NOT be reasoned with, no matte how innocent some of them may seem.

Any DECENT, reasonable, human-fking being would agree that late-term abortions are Nazi-like, yet the Left MUST protect the most important pillar of their religion: Abortion which allows someone to act like a whore with no consequence.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9510 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:27 am to
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This is what Democrats have always wanted, the ability to kill babies right up until they’re born.


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This is what Democrats have always wanted, the ability to kill opposition even after they’re born.


FIFY
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:34 am to
32 pages of pure melt. Not one lick of truth has been told by the right in 32 pages either.
Just irrational fear mongering from a truly sad and pathetic group of people.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
68954 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:36 am to

Why do you support sexist and transphobic laws?
Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
99 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:50 am to
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32 pages of pure melt. Not one lick of truth has been told by the right in 32 pages either. Just irrational fear mongering from a truly sad and pathetic group of people.


Please enlightened us on what isn’t true. The bill legalized:

- abortion for any reason up to 24 weeks
- abortion after 24 weeks for “health” reasons

Maybe you can tell me why they didn’t define “health”. I’ve seen bills that are 3,000 pages long.

Did they just run out of ink or get lazy?
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13597 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:51 am to
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Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one's first feeling, 'Thank God, even they aren't quite so bad as that,' or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to the first story for the sheer pleasure of thinking your enemies are as bad as possible? If it is the second then it is, I am afraid, the first step in a process which, if followed to the end, will make us into devils. You see, one is beginning to wish that black was a little blacker. If we give that wish its head, later on we shall wish to see grey as black, and then to see white itself as black. Finally we shall insist on seeing everything -- God and our friends and ourselves included -- as bad, and not be able to stop doing it: we shall be fixed for ever in a universe of pure hatred.


CS Lewis, Mere Christianity



With this debate and the one with the catholic kids I think this CS Lewis quote is very appropriate to keep in our minds. Abortion is evil but I’d like to believe the vast majority of its supporters are not evil they are just extremely misguided
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:54 am to
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- abortion after 24 weeks for “health” reasons


That's not what it says. Go ahead and post the entire thing and stop being a disingenuous hack like they rest of your filth kind has been.

Or maybe you ran out of ink or got lazy.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 6:55 am
Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
99 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:59 am to
Direct link to the bill: LINK

Direct quote from the bill:

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an abortion May be performed by a licensed, certified, or authorized practitioner within 24 weeks from the commencement of pregnancy, or there is an absence of fetal viability, or at any time when necessary to protect a patient's life or health.


What did I lie about? I didn’t get any of this from MSM. I read the entire bill. You should too, it’s not long. 90% of it deals with removing the criminal penalties for killing a pregnant woman.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 7:03 am
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:01 am to
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That's not what it says. Go ahead and post the entire thing and stop being a disingenuous hack like they rest of your filth kind has been.

Or maybe you ran out of ink or got lazy.



Why don't you post the entire thing liar?

fricking scum won't just come out and admit they want to push any abortion anywhere because they want to frick with no consequences just like they never want to face consequences for any of their behavior
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
68954 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:09 am to
But once again the left has provided an expansion of 'rights' that the vast majority will never utilize.

Like the right of women to 'marry' women even though most women don't want to marry women.

Like the right of men to 'marry' men even though most men don't want to marry men.

Like the right of men to 'become' women even though most men don't want to be women.

Like the right of women to 'become' men even though most women don't want to be men.

But hey, it's great that the left is always thinking of and providing things that hardly anyone wants.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:16 am to
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Not one lick of truth has been told by the right in 32 pages either


You are a liar.

Further, if you can't see how disgusting it is to soften the legal ramifications for killing the unborn child of a pregnant woman who is CHOOSING to carry to term, you are a hypocrite as well.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 7:20 am
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29542 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:19 am to
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what constitutes the mother's health? What degree does the mother's health have to be impacted and who decides that? Does that include mother's mental health? Can you abort an 8 month pregnancy because of depression and the like?



Dunno, I would think mental health wouldn’t count. I’ll leave that between the woman and her doctor though.
Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
99 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:20 am to
Here’s a good question. Why does the bill say...

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when necessary to protect a patient's life or health.


Why couldn’t you just stop at life? Necessary to protect the woman’s life. That would cover ectopic pregnancies, eclampsia, etc. everything you are worried about.

To put it another way, if the bill said “to protect a patient’s life” only.... what scenarios would we be leaving out?

This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 7:21 am
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:22 am to
Like the laws to end slavery and make them equal citizens? You talking about rights for minorities like that? Wow... I come back every day even more amazed at how terrible of a human some of you are. Can we put you back in a woman and have an abortion. Bc you have clearly failed at this life.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 7:24 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75166 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:23 am to
We get it bro you like killing babies
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:24 am to
We get it bro you like killing women.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30191 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:26 am to
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What did I lie about? I didn’t get any of this from MSM. I read the entire bill. You should too, it’s not long. 90% of it deals with removing the criminal penalties for killing a pregnant woman.



You are arguing with human excrement. Anyone who would argue in favor of legal killing of babies as old as 9 mo is simply evil and likely a sociopath.
Normally I’m very “live and let live” but on this issue I’d be willing to get supporters of this bill on the record, round them up and then remove them from society. I understand the yin-yang of conservative-liberal and how both bring relative value to our lives but this shite is ludicrous and reveals a darkness that only a few, very dangerous people have in the their heart and mind.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
68954 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:26 am to
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You talking about rights for minorities like that? 


What about transwomen?

This law does nothing for them.
Posted by VitoAndolini
Member since Jan 2019
99 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:27 am to
What was wrong with my question?

I responded to yours
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