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re: New York man faces illegal weapons charges after killing 2 burglars in his home

Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:02 am to
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:02 am to
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Article does not explain why it was "illegally owned" but looking up New York gun laws, you must register all hand guns, so guessing it was not registered
That would be my guess as well. Still stupid that he was arrested for defending his home.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23750 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:03 am to
Same here in MPLS, if you shoot burglar you can go to jail for a long time, no need to keep a gun at my house—> passive aggressive way to take your gun away
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:03 am to
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Same here in MPLS, if you shoot burglar you can go to jail for a long time, no need to keep a gun at my house—> passive aggressive way to take your gun away
That's asinine
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54820 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:07 am to
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either way, this homeowners life has been ruined in the process of defending his home and life
were the burglars armed? You don't just get to shoot those who pose no threat to you
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8881 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:07 am to
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he may have a chance in upstate NY with the right jury


NY City and Upstate are different places


I guess New York City is to New York as California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, etc. is to the United States? Just another great reason to escape from those states and live somewhere else.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128780 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:08 am to
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You don't just get to shoot those who pose no threat to you


They were robbing him. So, I think he’s good there.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4330 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:08 am to
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were the burglars armed? You don't just get to shoot those who pose no threat to you


WTF... they were inside his home, that seems to be a pretty big threat.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46366 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:08 am to
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were the burglars armed? You don't just get to shoot those who pose no threat to you


Yes, you do. If they are in your home, they are a threat.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:09 am to
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were the burglars armed? You don't just get to shoot those who pose no threat to you


You going to stop them and ask them? How do you know they pose no threat? Break into my house, you will get shot. It's that simple.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:11 am to
Good news, unfortunately this being New York they will put the poor guy away for longer than they would have the perps...even if they had killed him.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128780 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:13 am to
Upon reading local news, it appears that this may not be as cut and dried as Fox News made it. It’s not clear that the people shot were inside the home. They also rang the doorbell. More details to come, I’m sure.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:14 am to
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Upon reading local news, it appears that this may not be as cut and dried as Fox News made it. It’s not clear that the people shot were inside the home. They also rang the doorbell. More details to come, I’m sure.
More details would be good
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83733 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:15 am to
so did the homeowner knowingly possess an illegal firearm or not?
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:17 am to
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so did the homeowner knowingly possess an illegal firearm or not?


I'm sure he knew. Didn't care.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:22 am to
The notion of needing a permit to keep a weapon in your own home seems silly, but it is the law, and NY has lots of silly laws. If you do not like them, live elsewhere.

The permits are not difficult to obtain or maintain. It seems that in most places in NY and outside NYC, the fee for a permit is about $200 every five years and that the permits are not difficult to obtain. Basically, you cannot be a felon.

Do we know why this homeowner did not maintain such a permit?
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:24 am to
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The notion of needing a permit to keep a weapon in your own home seems silly, but it is the law, and NY has lots of silly laws. If you do not like them, live elsewhere. The permits are not difficult to obtain or maintain. It seems that in most places in NY and outside NYC, the fee for a permit is about $200 every five years and that the permits are not difficult to obtain. Basically, you cannot be a felon. Do we know why this homeowner did not maintain such a permit?

I don't disagree with you. He should have had it registered. I will say this though, if I was in a similar situation, I wouldn't hesitate to do the same thing.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:27 am to
Two important points:
1) you can own guns legally in New York
2) Of the 50 states, New York has the third-lowest rate of gun violence.

Luckily this man was not hurt, and fortunately he will be taken to task over irresponsible gun ownership. This thread in no way fits the narrative that Polibaws want it to.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49529 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:31 am to
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so did the homeowner knowingly possess an illegal firearm or not?


If Texas passed a law making it illegal to miss a belt loop on my jeans, I would probably not know about it.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:32 am to
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1) you can own guns legally in New York

quote:

Luckily this man was not hurt, and fortunately he will be taken to task over irresponsible gun ownership.

Better than being seriously injured or killed. Would it have happened, we'll never know. What would you do in that situation? "Sorry, my gun isn't legal, will you guys please go back outside"? Don't forget, I said in this situation.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15060 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:35 am to
WTF?

I guess he should have interrupted the looting of his house, and asked if they had intentions to hurt him first.
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