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re: New York allows polyamorous marriages with same legal protections as monogamous

Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:07 pm to
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Remember when we said redefining marriage from being between a man & a woman would open Pandora’s Box? Remember how leftists scoffed at and dismissed the idea. Remember how we called it a slippery slope and leftists mocked the very idea. Remember how they said homos just wanted to “love who they want to love”?

I remember.


Are we really pretending that fundamentalist Mormons haven't been actively practicing polygamy for years?
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:07 pm to
My biggest question is how do you prove a polyamorous marriage? I still don’t think it’s legal to be married to more than 1 person, so who’s to say they’re not just telling the story to get the lease renewed? I would imagine if it went to court, there’s a good reason like some sweet rent control.

If they’re all married, are they also entitled to his estate (assuming there’s no will)?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:08 pm to
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Remember when we said redefining marriage from being between a man & a woman would open Pandora’s Box? Remember how leftists scoffed at and dismissed the idea. Remember how we called it a slippery slope and leftists mocked the very idea. Remember how they said homos just wanted to “love who they want to love”? I remember.


If you define opening Pandora’s box as “recognizing a form of family unit that is as old as civilization”, then sure.

Pretty sure you all guaranteed people would be marrying dogs and toasters by now, though.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:08 pm to
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Are we really pretending that fundamentalist Mormons haven't been actively practicing polygamy for years?


Only if you’re pretending those who still do it don’t have to hide it from both the law and the Mormon church.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:14 pm to
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If you define opening Pandora’s box as “recognizing a form of family unit that is as old as civilization”, then sure.


Holy shite
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:18 pm to
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Holy shite


I’m sorry, are you under the impression that plural marriages are a modern development?
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:23 pm to
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If you define opening Pandora’s box as “recognizing a form of family unit that is as old as civilization”, then sure.



Naturalist Fallacy [ON] OFF
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:25 pm to
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Naturalist Fallacy [ON] OFF


I’m not saying that plural marriage is good because it exists in history; I’m saying plural marriage can’t be an example of the opening of Pandora’s box with gay marriage when it predates gay marriage by thousands of years. Try to keep up.
Posted by Realityintheface
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:30 pm to
That pic is called an Oreo FYI.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:40 pm to
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I’m sorry, are you under the impression that plural marriages are a modern development?


I was talking about the move to redefine marriage to allow gay marriage. Go reread my post or have someone with a reading comprehension level above that of a special needs 2nd grader read it for you. Gay marriage opened Pandora’s box, dumbass. Without gay marriage, we would not even be discussing plural marriage.

Plural marriage, which while ancient in other civilizations, has never been accepted in the United States. It was the redefinition of marriage to allow gay marriage that made the possibly of plural marriage a reality in the US.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 10:45 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:51 pm to
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Remember when we said redefining marriage from being between a man & a woman would open Pandora’s Box? Remember how leftists scoffed at and dismissed the idea. Remember how we called it a slippery slope and leftists mocked the very idea. Remember how they said homos just wanted to “love who they want to love”?

I remember.
Where do you think this slope is slipping to? As far as government should be concerned, marriage is a contract between adults. Why should government care about sex/gender, race, or quantity?

Have you considered that the slippery slope actually slopes the other way? Why is it your default that marriage contracts should be as restrictive as possible, and that it's bad if government allows more freedom to contract? Shouldn't the conservative view be that contractual freedom should be restricted as little as possible?

"You are free to contract"
"Wait there's three of you? Let's limit that to two"
"Hang on two dudes? Nah it has to be one man and one woman"
"Whoa whoa, you are different races? No way, you have to be the same color"

That was the slippery slope, and we started at the bottom of it.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:51 pm to
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Darth_Vader
What are your thoughts on interracial marriage?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
72109 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:57 pm to
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What are your thoughts on interracial marriage?


What are your thoughts on straw-man arguments?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 11:10 pm to
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What are your thoughts on straw-man arguments?
My thoughts are this is absolutely not one.

Should I ask again?
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70585 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 11:20 pm to
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With so few real men out there, those of us still kicking arse, earning cash and swinging dong are going to be more and more in demand. Women will share if it will move them up in status and get them their Tesla's and Louis's. I'll take 3-4.


Until you get rape-divorced times 3-4 by your newly court-defined “common law marriages” and become even more undesirable than some unemployed single shlub who owes no alimony.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37058 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 11:27 pm to
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Shouldn't the conservative view be that contractual freedom should be restricted as little as possible?


I would guess a more libertarian person would ask why the government should have any role at all? It seems like an often unnecessary legality
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16839 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 11:30 pm to
Government shouldn't be involved in marriage, period. If dealing with taxes, which are theft anyway, each person should get the std exemption, including any children (assuming our current tax structure).
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 11:33 pm to
The folly of libertarianism.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
9881 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 11:42 pm to
So Pologamy is outlawed in every state in the US ,but Polyamory is allowed to stand? Yeah that is not right and this is clearly an activist judge.
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
8857 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:10 am to
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Remember when we said redefining marriage from being between a man & a woman would open Pandora’s Box? Remember how leftists scoffed at and dismissed the idea. Remember how we called it a slippery slope and leftists mocked the very idea. Remember how they said homos just wanted to “love who they want to love”? I remember.


Yep. Just like with drag story time they'll first say you're crazy and it's no happening. Then when it's too far gone and they can't ignore it they move the goal posts and say "it doesn't effect you" and that you're hateful if you're against it. It's all connected and coordinated effort to destroy the family unit/religion/USA.
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