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re: New shooting in Minnesota
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:57 pm to ChiGator
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:57 pm to ChiGator
Come on man…
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The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) hiring process is a rigorous, multi-step federal procedure involving application via USAJOBS, interviews, and comprehensive pre-employment screenings. Key requirements include U.S. citizenship, a background investigation, drug testing, and physical fitness tests, with processes often taking several months to over a year to complete. Key Stages of the ICE Hiring Process Application & Assessment: Candidates apply through USAJOBS and complete initial assessments, which may include the USAHire Assessment, to determine eligibility. Interviews: Candidates participate in panel interviews with ICE personnel. Background Investigation: A thorough security check, including a polygraph for some positions, is required. This can take from three months up to a year. Medical & Fitness Exams: Applicants must pass a physical fitness test (PFT) and medical examination to ensure they can meet the demands of the position, such as in the Deportation Officer role. Drug Testing: A mandatory, pre-employment drug test is required. Training: Once hired, agents attend the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) in Glynco, Georgia. Common Requirements Age: Generally under 37 years old, with exceptions for veterans or current federal law enforcement officers. Citizenship: Must be a U.S. citizen. Background: No felony convictions. Education/Experience: A bachelor’s degree or relevant law enforcement experience is generally required for positions. Firearm Proficiency: Ability and willingness to carry a firearm.
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:58 pm to loogaroo
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No. It’s simple. Follow orders, don’t resist arrest and you won’t get shot.
Fully agree, my guy. I was referring to all the internet goobers out there that only see what they want to see along their political ideology in these videos and the scream at us for being out of touch with reality
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:58 pm to Champagne
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Have you read my other posts? Once a suspect is armed with a pistol and is actively physically fighting and resisting arrest of LE, that suspect is a continuing imminent threat to inflict death or grievous bodily harm on LE. The Law must not compel LE to shift gear in the middle of the active resistance and go back to a standard of dealing with an unarmed suspect that is not an imminent threat. That would be illogical and absurd for the Law to require LE to engage in that kind of somersault in the middle of a fight. Once the suspect is armed, the Law must regard the suspect as a suspect that is armed with a deadly weapon, and when that same suspect is actively and physically fighting with LE, the suspect presents a grave imminent threat to LE.
Again, you are giving your opinion of what you think the law should be. I am telling you what the courts have ruled on deadly force cases.
To be clear, I am not saying you are wrong generally or even wrong in this case. I am saying it’s not as black and white as you are making it seem. Actively resisting while being armed is definitely a good starting place as far as justifying a use of deadly force. But, just theoretically here, if body cam showed him bucking and fighting but both of his arms were being controlled and he did not go after any gun…then that is a slightly different legal scenario. Not saying that’s what happened here.
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What do you mean by saying "but they also can’t use this lack of knowledge as legal justification for deadly force"? That statement makes no logical sense whatsoever. It is a complete nonsense statement.
No you just didn’t follow. They can’t take a gun from a suspect, and then justify lethal force AFTER the gun was removed bc “hey, he COULD have had another one” without having some objective evidence supporting that assertion.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:58 pm to antibarner
46 rounds, the horror
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:58 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Well said Barner. Trump needs to use the Insurrection Act and clear the whistleblowing cretins off the streets that way we don't have this happening any more.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:58 pm to ChiGator
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Let me guess because it comes from a left state…it is a fake source.
So a preliminary offer of employment with a cleared background check is your proof. Jesus this was proven false a while back moron. Try again!
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:00 pm to ChiGator
Is that where you get your news? No wonder you are a low IQ POS 
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:00 pm to ABearsFanNMS
Pink lady’s video is out. It appears to be two different shooters. One agent to the left in green pepper sprays guy and then pulls his weapon and shoots him once or twice. Guy sits up for a second in shock and then another agent fires several from the diagonal right. Looked more like poor training and trigger happy agents than anything else.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:00 pm to ABearsFanNMS
Looks like they disarmed the guy before they shot him on top of things. Not a good shoot no matter how you idiots try to slice it:
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:00 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I would imagine in that wrestling match the guy got hold of his gun and that’s when everyone jumped back. Then someone starts shooting him.
Very similar to Alton Sterling shooting. Had his hand on his gun in his pocket while whoopin two cops. Officer yelled gun and pumped two in him. Exonerated on all levels.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:01 pm to SnacknGold06
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:02 pm to the808bass
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That’s where I stopped.
So you’ve never had to restrain a full-grown, resisting adult in your professional career. Thanks.
No, I haven't but I have seen numerous times where 5-6 cops easily subdued and individual. Again, these ICE guys are gaping pussies not being able to neutralize this guy. Weak.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:02 pm to Placekicker
If you point a gun you better know what you're doing. These jokers think they have the right to do this without repercussion, too bad they are gonna keep finding out the hard way................................
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:02 pm to SpecialK_88
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Not a good shoot no matter how you idiots try to slice it:
Any time one of those stupid fricks gets shot, it’s a good shoot, to me, never mind your bullshite.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:03 pm to roadGator
ICE officials only later discovered that some of the recruits failed drug testing, have disqualifying criminal backgrounds, or don’t meet the physical or academic requirements to serve, the sources said. ... Staff members at ICE’s training academy in Brunswick, Georgia, recently discovered one recruit had previously been charged with strong-arm robbery and battery stemming from a domestic violence incident, the current DHS official said. They’ve also found as recently as this month that some recruits going through the six-week training course hadn’t submitted fingerprints for background checks, as ICE’s hiring process requires, the current and former DHS officials said.
“There is absolutely concern that some people are slipping through the cracks,” the current DHS official said. The official said many of the issues that have been flagged during training surface only because the recruits admitted they didn’t submit to fingerprinting or drug testing before they arrived. “What about the ones who don’t admit it?” the official said.
“There is absolutely concern that some people are slipping through the cracks,” the current DHS official said. The official said many of the issues that have been flagged during training surface only because the recruits admitted they didn’t submit to fingerprinting or drug testing before they arrived. “What about the ones who don’t admit it?” the official said.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:03 pm to Chancellor
SpecialK really is special
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:03 pm to Bandit1980
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If you point a gun you better know what you're doing
Guy had already been maced and tackled.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:04 pm to Champagne
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My amateur guess is that the courts and the law have not restricted the discretion of LE to confine their response to the armed and dangerous suspect that is fighting with LE and resisting arrest, to the restrictions which you described.
You don’t have to make an amateur guess, use google or AI or something.
Like it or not, what I am saying is the law in all circuits: deadly force is justified only in cases where an officer has reasonable belief that his life or the life of others is being imminently threatened (and this includes risk of serious bodily harm).
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IMHO, you are being overly emotional and illogical AND you assume too many facts and circumstances BECAUSE you are being emotional and illogical.
What facts have I assumed? I’m not making any assumptions nor have I made any conclusory statements about this particular shooting. I am trying to inform you what goes into the legal analysis of an officer involved shooting, but you don’t want to learn. That’s what I call emotional and illogical.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:04 pm to GeneralLee
Nice. The only good communist is a dead communist. I hope all those officers get a nice steak dinner and a bonus in pay
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:04 pm to antibarner
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Now none of the pearl clutchers have addressed why this gentleman would be carrying that many rounds.
Because frick you, that's why.
Because "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED", that's why.
Because he fricking felt like it, that's why.
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