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Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:37 pm to Jjdoc
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new Russian submarine tactics are threatening to overwhelm aging U.S. fleet
Our aging US fleet is much more modern than theirs.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:41 pm to Cosmo
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What percentage of those Chinese and Russian subs are comparable to our attack and Trident subs?
Some of us may or may not have spent time tracking boats in a former life. While not easy, our technology makes it fairly routine and not that worrisome to track the vast majority of both countries boats.
Tracking ours on the other hand?
We’d do training ops with the surface fleet in which they’d make us stay at a certain depth, initiate an artificial noise maker, bang on the engine room hatch, and confine us to a small square. Our navy still couldn’t find us.
A boomer with RCPs secured running natural circulation through the reactor is literally impossible to find.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:43 pm to Pdubntrub
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So a country on the other side of the world with no navy, and an obsolete air force is threat.
Left out some pretty important parts, didn't you? Like nuclear weapons, and ballistic missiles possibly capable of delivering those nuclear weapons to the continental US?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:51 pm to terd ferguson
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frick a Russia. We have the greatest submarine fleet ever assembled.
This. I'm all for massive overwhelming military, but our damn attack subs are just fine. Just like the '70's and '80's, the only indication a Russian boat will have that a U.S. Sub was in the vicinity is when they hear, too late, the screws of a torpedo coming at them, and too late, their hull implodes due to the U.S. sub destroying it.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:52 pm to TheGasMan
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We’d do training ops with the surface fleet in which they’d make us stay at a certain depth, initiate an artificial noise maker, bang on the engine room hatch, and confine us to a small square. Our navy still couldn’t find us.
I've done the same ops. P-3's flying around us dropping sonar buoys, surface ships all over the place above us. We could hear everything they were doing. We were slamming deck plates, hitting the pressure hull with wrenches, and purposely causing cavitation... they still couldn't find us.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:55 pm to terd ferguson
Yeah, this is a cash grab. Nobody has shite on the US sub fleet.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:56 pm to Pdubntrub
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So a country on the other side of the world with no navy and an obsolete air force is threat.
They have a navy - not a blue water navy, but they have submarines, cruise missiles and nuclear weapons, in addition to their ballistic missile program.
You don't consider that a threat?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:59 pm to Jjdoc
quote:We can't be paying any attention to that now.
Russian President Vladimir Putin is increasingly challenging U.S. security interests,
There was a guy who worked in the White House who roughed up his former wives and then got fired from his White House job because of it.
THAT'S what we need to be worrying about 24/7!!!
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:03 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:He was quoting the part about North Korea being a threat.
They have a navy - not a blue water navy, but they have submarines, cruise missiles and nuclear weapons, in addition to their ballistic missile program.
You don't consider that a threat?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:14 pm to Jjdoc
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new Russian submarine tactics are threatening to overwhelm aging U.S. fleet
Nah
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:41 pm to Cosmo
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sounds like alarmism to get pentagon more money for communications security.
The military doesn't need more money. They have plenty of money.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:45 pm to Jjdoc
At this point in US history I think it would be unwise to assume that the USA has any military or diplomatic secrets that haven't been revealed to our enemies, our allies and to disinterested parties.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:46 pm to Jjdoc
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Cutting the lines isn't the issue. Spy subs are.
Yeah-we all saw The Hunt for Red October in 1990. Has Mother Russia finally successfully developed and deployed the Caterpillar Drive?
You'd think the Pentagon would come up with new ways to scare our money out of Congress.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:53 pm to Jjdoc
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his submarine fleet’s “operational tempo is reaching Cold War-era levels,”
doubt it
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:56 pm to Jjdoc
guess its a good thing that the Pentagon just got a $300 billion raise.
I suspect some boatyards are about to get busy
I suspect some boatyards are about to get busy
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:57 pm to TheGasMan
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A boomer with RCPs secured running natural circulation through the reactor is literally impossible to find.
I'd read (not confirmed) they experimented with technology to make them sound more natural, as our boomers rigged for quiet running were quieter than the background noise of the ocean, because of sound absorption - our guys were starting to pick up on that to try to track them for exercises, so the fear was the Russians were too. Don't know if they ever implemented any of them, but it is an intriguing concept.
It used to be a punishable offense to knowingly track a boomer, unless it was a training exercise for that purpose, as well.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:01 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Caterpillar Drive?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:04 pm to Manzielathon
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OPM was a disaster of untold consequence.
And, yet, you don't hear shite about it because it happened under Obama's watch and there's no one you can deflect it to like Muh Russians (which also happened under Obama)
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