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re: New Poll: Pennsylvania - Biden 48 Trump 43 (Trafalgar Group)

Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17969 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

I don’t see Minnesota happening. I think Trump wins Wisconsin. Michigan and Penn up for grabs.


Do you remember the 2016 Minnesota results?
Posted by scionofadrunk
Williamson County, TN
Member since Mar 2020
1961 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:02 pm to
Those numbers should make any Trump supporter happy. That means Trump has narrowed Biden's lead.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:03 pm to
He lost Minnesota by 45k votes

He lost NH by 2k.

He lost Nevada by 27k

Everyone loves to talk about how he barely won WI, Mi, Pa. by the same standards he almost had Nevada and NH.

I don't think he can flip Minnesota but I do think he can NH this election.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22251 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Trafalgars polls
quote:

Most accurate pollster in 2016.

"The Trafalgar Group was somewhat prolific on Monday, the day before the [2016] election, releasing surveys in Florida (Trump ahead by 4 points), Michigan (Trump ahead by 2 points) and Georgia (Trump ahead by 7 points)."

How could the [2016] polling be so wrong?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15041 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

I don't think he can flip Minnesota but I do think he can NH this election.


Well that Republican governor Sununu needs to work his arse off to make it happen. You know, Sununu. If you don't remember his dad, he was the one who recommended David Souter for the Supreme Court.
Posted by Nono
Member since Nov 2017
4820 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:08 pm to
As long as OP is ok with a thread bump in 121 days if these numbers are wrong.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29137 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

If you don't remember his dad, he was the one who recommended David Souter for the Supreme Court.



At the advice of NH Senator Warren Rudman who boasted afterwards that he "tricked" them into appointing Souter because he knew that it wasn't a conservative pick.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41558 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

No way Penn is going to vote to kill their economy.

No way a traditionally democrat state is going to vote for their very own Joe Biden? Yea, no fricking way.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:13 pm to
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"The Trafalgar Group was somewhat prolific on Monday, the day before the [2016] election, releasing surveys in Florida (Trump ahead by 4 points), Michigan (Trump ahead by 2 points) and Georgia (Trump ahead by 7 points)."


I just read that article what is even more amazing is they literally just did 1 poll for each of those states for the whole year...

I know they were a small poster then but now that they have polls cranking out sooner I hope to see more than just one.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7131 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:14 pm to


In the current climate of social media outing, doxing, and whatnot, many are simple not truthful on polls.

If it is a poll from an e-mail, that data is tracked.

If it is a poll from a call related to a personal or business phone, that data is tracked.

People realize more and more that ALL data is tracked and not protected. Your answers can and will probably be used against you in the court of public opinion.

With that in mind, I question any poll.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32526 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:16 pm to
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It would be interesting to see their polling back in 2016 from April-August.

Unfortunately, we were having a primary then.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57638 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:17 pm to
Polls this far out are more than worthless. All it will take is one debate to get this back in Trump’s favor
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:19 pm to
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It would be interesting to see their polling back in 2016 from April-August.


To answer your question - they had none, zero

The literally polled Mi, Pa, Fl, Ga and just did only one poll for each state and it was conducted in either late October or early November leading up to the election. I just checked RCP.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50102 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:22 pm to
That means Trump is up in every one of those states.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11271 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:23 pm to
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much harder this time around to find people willing to answer a poll and say they are voting for Trump than it was in 2016, though.


Why? What’s the consequence?
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5343 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:33 pm to
If accurate, I see Trump taking Wisonsin and Florida. That'll put him at 263. Iowa most likely will go to Trump and give him 269 so Trump will need 1 more since the House is Dem controlled and if the Maine electorate he pulled last time comes through he's got it. If not, he will need 1 more state like New Hampshire.

I think Trump will win it IF his supporters show up.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29665 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:34 pm to
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Those are all great numbers for Trump.
they really are, and OP is correct in saying that some people won't answer that they are for Trump
Posted by 20 ton
BR
Member since Aug 2013
795 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:03 pm to
I wonder if Trump’s ads are hammering Biden’s promise to ban fracking by EO on his first day. It might be popular with progs in Philadelphia but would destroy jobs in western PA. Not to mention ND, Texas,Ohio , La, NM, Mt, and a few others.

I know the oil business is down but you ban fracking and there would be no hope as prices rise.
Posted by Northshoretiger87
Member since Apr 2016
3675 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:07 pm to
Before or after Mount Rushmore speech? With more Rushmore speeches, Joe doesn’t stand a chance.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
3341 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:10 pm to
Just moved to PA last year. Hoping to make this purple state a littler redder.
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