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re: New phenomenon caused by climate change
Posted on 9/6/17 at 9:24 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 9/6/17 at 9:24 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Why are you for deforestation?
I'm not. Really can't control a natural disaster.
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 9:24 am to AU_Right
quote:Well trees would be a far better way to measure the NATURAL impact or a hurricane. Damage is related to the strength of structures and the level of development of those structures from place to place, and deaths are related to those plus things like evacuation success, etc
No where was there mentioned death or damage in this thread. You went with trees. frick you...stupid frick.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 9:28 am to olddawg26
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He lives in huntsville go easy on him
You close by?...small world.This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 10:03 am
Posted on 9/6/17 at 9:33 am to buckeye_vol
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Well trees would be a far better way to measure the NATURAL impact or a hurricane. Damage is related to the strength of structures and the level of development of those structures from place to place, and deaths are related to those plus things like evacuation success, etc
How about wind speed. Pretty much all a fella needs to know to get the frick out of dodge.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:23 am to Strannix
These GW people consistently ignore the basic scientific principle of adequate sampling size. How is nobody in the resistance group pointing that out on a daily basis ?
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:34 am to Strannix
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climate change
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For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:36 am to ccomeaux
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These GW people consistently ignore the basic scientific principle of adequate sampling size.
They ignore many scientific principles. The scientific method goes out the window when discussing climate religion
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:49 am to ccomeaux
We know a massive hurricane destroyed Last Island in 1856, and another large storm hit a month later. A major storm has hit just about every year since then.
At what point did AGW become the reason?
At what point did AGW become the reason?
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:26 am to DEG
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This is the strongest hurricane on record to ever hit the Atlantic.
I doubt the NWS has never heard of:
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Hurricane Season Winds mph km/h
Allen 1980 190 305
Labor Day" 1935 185 295
Gilbert 1988 185 295
Wilma 2005 185 295
Irma 2017 185 295
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:30 am to Strannix
This board exudes a bafflingly high level of stupidity about climate science the moment the conversation climbs into the arena the Republican tribe has decided to obfuscate to benefit their donor class.
Do some of you also deny the use of those same scientific principles and models that forecasted this active season? Based on underlying climate science? Question the basic relationship of hurricanes and ocean temperatures? Like do you just scoff at the idea of climate scientists telling you gulf waters need to be 82 degrees to truly support hurricanes? Laugh when they mention higher sea temperatures strengthen intensity? Deny laws like the Clasius-Clayperon relation that show warmer global atmospheric temperatures leads to greater precipitation in areas like the gulf? Deny the relationships of greenhouse gasses to warm planet temperatures? Sit around and argue that Venus, with its runaway greenhouse effect, is really not the hottest planet? That venera 13 secretly landed on a cold planet because the greenhouse effect is bullshite?
Are we just carving out an exception to let stupidity in because that's what the tribe signals, or is this a permanent state of being?
Do some of you also deny the use of those same scientific principles and models that forecasted this active season? Based on underlying climate science? Question the basic relationship of hurricanes and ocean temperatures? Like do you just scoff at the idea of climate scientists telling you gulf waters need to be 82 degrees to truly support hurricanes? Laugh when they mention higher sea temperatures strengthen intensity? Deny laws like the Clasius-Clayperon relation that show warmer global atmospheric temperatures leads to greater precipitation in areas like the gulf? Deny the relationships of greenhouse gasses to warm planet temperatures? Sit around and argue that Venus, with its runaway greenhouse effect, is really not the hottest planet? That venera 13 secretly landed on a cold planet because the greenhouse effect is bullshite?
Are we just carving out an exception to let stupidity in because that's what the tribe signals, or is this a permanent state of being?
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:33 am to Strannix
So Branson is an "expert" on all of this now? I just thought he sold records and tapes and CD's and has a very limited airline...but, damn, he's an expert on atmospheric physics!!!!!
Who knew?????
Who knew?????
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:37 am to bonhoeffer45
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Sit around and argue that Venus, with its runaway greenhouse effect, is really not the hottest planet? That venera 13 secretly landed on a cold planet because the greenhouse effect is bullshite?
I will gladly argue that 92 bars of pressure is the reason Venus is the hottest planet and the greenhouse effect is inconsequential.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 11:38 am
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:42 am to DEG
quote:Thanks for confirming you can't comprehend what you read.
This is the strongest hurricane on record to ever hit the Atlantic.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:43 am to junkfunky
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I will gladly argue that 92 bars of pressure is the reason Venus is the hottest planet and the greenhouse effect is inconsequential.
So let's be clear, you deny that greenhouse gasses warm planets? And its effect on Venus?
Do you deny the greenhouse effect outright?
I'm am trying to get at just what level of ignorance we are dealing with here?
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:58 am to bonhoeffer45
quote:GFY. There are plenty of AGW acolytes that don't know jack isht about even basic thermodynamics.
This board exudes a bafflingly high level of stupidity about climate science the moment the conversation climbs into the arena the Republican tribe has decided to obfuscate to benefit their donor class.
quote:Weather models != climate models. Not even comparable. Met models don't use CO2 as an input. So... touting them as oracles of AGW... would require magic.
Do some of you also deny the use of those same scientific principles and models that forecasted this active season?
As far as this being an "active season"
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Question the basic relationship of hurricanes and ocean temperatures?
like i challenged you on Harvey, Let's see your simple energy balance. Show the relationship of radiation forcing to how much rain you think "should" have fallen for Harvey. Let's see some calcs Mr Science. quote:
Deny laws like the Clasius-Clayperon relation that show warmer global atmospheric temperatures leads to greater precipitation in areas like the gulf?
called it! LINK quote:You tell us. I don't see any science in your post demonstrating anything. Just a bunch of suppositions and buzz words.
Are we just carving out an exception to let stupidity in because that's what the tribe signals, or is this a permanent state of being?
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 9/6/17 at 1:06 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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So is the 12 year run without a major hurricane striking the US proof of global cooling?
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US
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global
(Bearing in mind that the record hurricane in terms of windspeed for the Pacific Ocean was last year. Hit Mexico)
Posted on 9/6/17 at 6:47 pm to Taxing Authority
Weather forecasting is reliant upon the same laws and principles contained in atmospheric science that climate scientists use. And for reference, it was the NOAA that I was referring to in predicting a more active season.
No one challenges the notion that greenhouse gasses have an effect on planetary temperatures. No one denies warmer ocean temperatures in places like the gulf can act as a strengthener of storms. No one dismisses the Claseus Clayperon relation and how greater global temperatures can lead to greater levels of moisture in the atmosphere and thus greater precipitation in hurricanes. Or as sea levels rise, the impact of storm surges will worsen.
If you think these roundly agreed upon aspects of atmospheric science are false, feel free to submit your findings for peer review.
No one challenges the notion that greenhouse gasses have an effect on planetary temperatures. No one denies warmer ocean temperatures in places like the gulf can act as a strengthener of storms. No one dismisses the Claseus Clayperon relation and how greater global temperatures can lead to greater levels of moisture in the atmosphere and thus greater precipitation in hurricanes. Or as sea levels rise, the impact of storm surges will worsen.
If you think these roundly agreed upon aspects of atmospheric science are false, feel free to submit your findings for peer review.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:11 am to bonhoeffer45
quote:Nope. And your ignorance about that tells the tale.
Weather forecasting is reliant upon the same laws and principles contained in atmospheric science that climate scientists use.
quote:False. And it's a bandwagon fallacy.
No one challenges the notion that greenhouse gasses have an effect on planetary temperatures. No one denies warmer ocean temperatures in places like the gulf can act as a strengthener of storms.
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No one dismisses the Claseus Clayperon relation and how greater global temperatures can lead to greater levels of moisture in the atmosphere and thus greater precipitation in hurricanes.
I love how you keep misusing this. quote:Appeal to authority != science.
If you think these roundly agreed upon aspects of atmospheric science are false, feel free to submit your findings for peer review.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:25 am to mmcgrath
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No effing way I am staying on that tiny island in a Cat 5 hurricane.
House looks to be up pretty high,maybe 200 feet. Probably built like a fort,stocked with everything and self reliant.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:37 am to Taxing Authority
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bandwagon fallacy.
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Appeal to authority
In between your 30,000 shite posts, did you decide to take an intro to philosophy class at University of Phoenix and fail it or something?
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