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re: New Orleans is sole owner of Wisner Trust land and revenues, state appellate court rules

Posted on 5/22/26 at 9:44 am to
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 9:44 am to
I’m just looking at it in a cursory way but seeing this wording is more than just intended to give to entities-
“stipulating that proceeds support charitable institutions, including the Salvation Army, Charity Hospital of New Orleans, Tulane University, and the City of New Orleans, alongside his heirs.”

Especially with a sunset wording of 100 years. That seems to be an intentional choice of limited timeframe towards the trust itself.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 9:52 am to
Posted by SlidellCajun
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 9:56 am to
The trust began in 2014 went for 100 years. The city of New Orleans was beneficiary of the land and the heirs were to receive revenue from what came from that land. Some were family, some were not.


In 2014 it was set to expire. Somehow the beneficiaries continued to receive income from the trust. Mitch was mayor then.

Then in 2020, Latoya brought legal action to extend the trust and that was later invalidated by the 4th circuit.

Moreno and the city argue that the trust has expired and the land now goes to ownership of the city and also the revenue from proceeds from that land. Port Fourchon’s lease is a big part of that-

I’m sure that there’ll be legal action to bring this to the la Supreme Court to see if the recent decision is upheld. The heirs are trying to make the case that they’re supposed to continue receiving funds.
The city of New Orleans is trying to make the case that they’re owed the money received by heirs since 2014!

Lawyers will drag that out for a while until someone squeals and wants to settle
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 10:06 am
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:02 am to
So does this mean that Charity Hospital will continue to sit vacant instead of being redeveloped or demolished?
Posted by AaronDeTiger
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:05 am to
What kind of kick back do you think Toya got for the 2020 extension?
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:07 am to
Rumors were that some of the of the heirs funneled money into a shady foundation she ran.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:13 am to
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Especially with a sunset wording of 100 years. That seems to be an intentional choice of limited timeframe towards the trust itself.


Sure,

But you seem to be under the impression that the property was intended to be owned by the heirs following the expiration of the trust. That’s not the case and Wisner never intended for the heirs to own the property.

The heirs sued to break up and annul the trust almost immediately after wisner died in 1928.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:14 am to
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So does this mean that Charity Hospital will continue to sit vacant instead of being redeveloped or demolished?


Why would it mean that?

Tulane is balls deep in redeveloping charity and has been for some time.
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:27 am to
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So does this mean that Charity Hospital will continue to sit vacant instead of being redeveloped or demolished?


Why would it mean that?

Tulane is balls deep in redeveloping charity and has been for some time.



Because the court annulled the agreement between Tulane and the city.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:40 am to
Demolishing or redeveloping Charity sounds like it'd be the biggest, most complicated pain in the arse in the history of the world.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:47 am to
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Because the court annulled the agreement between Tulane and the city.


Where does the opinion say that?
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 11:48 am to
In that same consideration of intention why shouldn’t it be that Winser never intended for a public entity to own ? Having that 100 year placement obviously wanted a end of the trust
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:01 pm to
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In that same consideration of intention why shouldn’t it be that Winser never intended for a public entity to own ?


Because the original documents from 1914 explicitly bequeath the land/assets to the city of New Orleans? Again, you seem to think it's a matter of interpretation that Wisner wanted the land to go to New Orleans. It isn't. Idk what makes you think the other heirs would get the property.

You realize this whole thing started nearly 100 years ago because his heirs wanted to subvert his will and keep it for themselves right?

You realize that a most of the "heirs" are not related in anyway to Wisner at this point, but are heirs of the attorneys who were hired to break up the trust by Wisner's wife and kids back in the 1920s?
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:14 pm to
“ Because the original documents from 1914 explicitly bequeath the land/assets to the city of New Orleans?”

I didn’t notice that it explicitly bequeathed land / assets to the city rather I thought it said NO, Tulane, LSU & the Wisner family.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:25 pm to
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In establishing this trust, Wisner required the City of New Orleans to use funds generated from its use of the land “for the beautification of New Orleans and for the education, health and recreation of the city residents.” As the trust's principal beneficiary, the City held the trust corpus and would receive the bulk of the trust's revenue. Wisner named three income beneficiaries: Tulane University, Charity Hospital, and the Salvation Army. Wisner named the Mayor of New Orleans as trustee. Notably, at the end of the trust's one-hundred-year term, Wisner expressly granted all of the trust's immovable property to the City of New Orleans.


Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:26 pm to
Hilarious that this post got so many upvotes when it’s 100% incorrect lmao
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:29 pm to
That is from a decision not the original trust drawn 100 years right? Would be interesting to see how it was actually structured in that original trust
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:30 pm to
No. That’s from the original trust.
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:36 pm to
That also doesn’t show the wisner heirs getting their monies (40%) which would be the larger share not the (35%) NO receives. Again I have limited information and just curious as to why even have a sunset clause if it wasn’t expected to end payouts if NO was the recipient along
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:43 pm to
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if it wasn’t expected to end payouts


What do you mean?

Also, only in very limited circumstances (this is not one of them) can trusts last in perpetuity. If ai had to guess, 100 years was the statutory maximum back in 1914. I think it’s 50 years now.
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