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New GOP Primary Poll. Trump leads, horse race for 2nd place.

Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:37 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:37 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:38 am to
TDS incoming.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:41 am to
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Kaplan Strategies is a prominent polling and strategic consulting firm, offering valuable intelligence and comprehensive guidance to political campaigns


Trump paid for this one or Vivek?
Posted by DellTronJon
Member since Feb 2010
1282 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:41 am to
Rhinos are going to try to use the biden strategy for nomination. Keep trump under 50% and then everyone will simultaneously drop out and throw money and support behind the establishment candidate
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12824 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:43 am to
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kaplanstrategies


Dem pollster that had Nikki Fried tied with Crist
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
11844 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:43 am to
Vivek stated he would remove 20,000 FBI permanently as those are the ones reporting to the D.C.political weapon's board.

He also rapped a favorite song.

I'd vote for him over Sand Boy
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69282 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:44 am to
According to this poll, trump has a *35% disapproval rating* among members of his own party (up from 29% in the last iteration)

How can you win a general election when more than 1/3rd of your own party do not like you?

Having a 35% disapproval rating among your party is historically bad, if not unprecedented
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118736 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:44 am to
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Trump paid for this one or Vivek?


IDK. It would however be difficult to find out who paid for this poll if anyone besides Kaplan doing it themselves to get involved in the polling industry.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118736 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:45 am to
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How can you win a general election when more than 1/3rd of your own party do not like you?


You win more electoral votes than your general election candidate.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118736 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:49 am to
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Rhinos are going to try to use the biden strategy for nomination. Keep trump under 50% and then everyone will simultaneously drop out and throw money and support behind the establishment candidate



It doesn't look like this strategy will work with Ramaswamy in the race. Also as disappointing as this sounds for Trump supporters there is a strong possibility IMO that Trump will have his arm twisted to choose Tim Scott has his VP. That pick will mollify the RINOs and bring in a lot of donor money.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 8:51 am
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28585 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:50 am to
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The evolving narrative highlights DeSantis losing MAGA support to Ramaswamy and mainstream conservative backing to Pence.



The reason DeSantis should be the nominee may be the reason he won’t be the nominee.

He should be the nominee because has the best combination of America First principles and effectiveness + electability.

But since he was clearly the most likely to take over the “America First” contingent of the party, Trump snapped his fingers and got his NPC’s to believe he’s some devil establishment George Bushie type, basically chopping off a leg of the stool DeSantis needed to stand on.

Since DeSantis is “like Trump” in a lot of ways, and doesn’t back down like when false claims of racism are made against him, those more moderate type voters, given a choice, would prefer a Pence or some fresh face whose never had to battle but talks nicely like Vivek.

DeSantis has taken the most fire from Trump, has taken fire from those below him trying to take the #2 spot, and continues to take fire from the left since he kicks their arse everyday and is the biggest threat to the left.

Unfortunately, Trump is Trump-first and would rather lie to destroy our best candidate so he can win the nom then lose the general again. And unfortunately, Trump’s NPCs are too well-programmed to see it.

I still think DeSantis wins Iowa and if he does he has a path to win, albeit still difficult.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73476 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:51 am to
Now polls bad
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71494 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:54 am to
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Kaplan Strategies, known for its actionable insights delivered to political campaigns, businesses, and organizations, funded and weighted the results.


Yeah, where's the methodology and raw data?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73476 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:56 am to
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The reason DeSantis should be the nominee may be the reason he won’t be the nominee



Is this hitting rock bottom?
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28585 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:00 am to
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Is this hitting rock bottom?


Rock bottom would be losing to Joe Biden then trying to overturn the results via the great legal mind of Sydney Powell. Then when your ridiculously stupid plan fails, you continue to lie to your supporters so they get so mad they storm the capitol, resulting in hundreds getting jailed and one killed while you sat on your couch and watched it on CNN. And then when that wasn’t enough, you decided you needed to lose to Joe Biden again. That would be rock bottom.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118736 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:01 am to
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Yeah, where's the methodology and raw data?


Apparently you have to pay for that.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27896 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:48 am to
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TDS incoming.

I think the visual realities of the Iowa state fair was a wake-up call for the Ronbois. The hate is pouring them, even more, following the events this weekend
Posted by TIGERHOLD
Orleans Parish
Member since Mar 2022
1031 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:50 am to
RobbBobbIger,

Don’t you have more lies to tell and alters to make, such as whatshesaid?

I was glad to see your Florida lies thread get bumped. You are a sad, sad individual to stoop to that level. You will need psychiatric help when Trump loses Iowa and the primary.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71494 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:51 am to
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Apparently you have to pay for that.




Legit.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73476 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:52 am to
Imagine backing a guy who cant beat a guy who lost to Biden

Yeah now thats rock bottom
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