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re: New emails from Epstein about Trump released. These actually don’t look good.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:15 am to _Hurricane_
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:15 am to _Hurricane_
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And this board will just accept this cope. They’d be asking for heads of anyone else who hung around a known pedophile, but Trump will get a pass on anything that isn’t him actually touching kids.
When you are regurgitating talking points from Adam Shiff, you've lost the plot.
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:16 am to VOR
I think you're view is too narrow. The Epstein saga has become the Loch Ness Monster. Nothing revealed will ever be big enough, nor will it ever truly be believed, nor will satisfy anyone. Reality will NEVER rise to the fantasy.
I actually agree with SFP on this one. Its been 20 years.... we almost certainly know everything worth knowing about the case already.
I actually agree with SFP on this one. Its been 20 years.... we almost certainly know everything worth knowing about the case already.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:16 am to _Hurricane_
I’m sure those are totally legit and the deep state has just been waiting for the right moment to torpedo Trump.
Do you realize how stupid it is to think there is anything truly damaging on Trump that the Biden admin or deep state (yes I repeat myself) sat on?
They were “stop Trump at all costs”. They failed.
Do you realize how stupid it is to think there is anything truly damaging on Trump that the Biden admin or deep state (yes I repeat myself) sat on?
They were “stop Trump at all costs”. They failed.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:17 am to Pettifogger
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This is a lie.
No it isn’t. What better “files” or evidence than the actual testimony?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:17 am to PorkSammich
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Trump’s covering something up, whether it’s him or someone he’s close to.
Why did the Biden admin cover for Trump?
Also there is a certain governor that could have used this info to launch him to the presidency. Some of it happened in his state.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 10:19 am
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:18 am to _Hurricane_
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Hurricane
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:18 am to Bama Mountain
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Trump did this stunt so his simple minded followers would believe that he had asked a judge to release the files. The judge saw through his stunt and mocked him for it.
Simple-minded?
of the two of us…..only one has been a prosecutor in front of a grand jury. Your ignorance knows no bounds. 
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:19 am to _Hurricane_
Just so I have this correct...
Non-specific mails from a dead guy to his partner in crime (who, as I recall, did not implicate Trump in any way in her DOJ interview earlier this year) and to a discredited "journalist" are somehow damning?
Straws are here
You are here.
Non-specific mails from a dead guy to his partner in crime (who, as I recall, did not implicate Trump in any way in her DOJ interview earlier this year) and to a discredited "journalist" are somehow damning?
Straws are here
You are here.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 10:20 am
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:21 am to BBONDS25
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Your ignorance knows no bounds.
You fell for it, not I.
Instead of insults you should just admit you were wrong.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:22 am to Bama Mountain
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You fell for it, not I. Instead of insults you should just admit you were wrong.
what better evidence than direct evidence? Dummy. 
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:24 am to Vacherie Saint
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I actually agree with SFP on this one. Its been 20 years.... we almost certainly know everything worth knowing about the case already.
And it points more towards former president gets massage from 20 year old and less to elites are drinking the blood of children.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:24 am to _Hurricane_
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rode on the plane
Trump himself has never disputed this and may have even admitted to it before the logs showing his name were released in 2016. He rode on the plane within the continental US (primarily between NY & FL). He has denied ever taking the plane to Epstein's island
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spent hours with a victim according to these.
This would need more context. How old was the victim when this happened, were they alone in a private residence for several hours, were these hours over many different "personal appointments".
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So he knew about the girls
He admitted he suspected it, kicked him out of Mar a Lago, and reports he may have helped with Epstein's earlier conviction. Which could be why Epstein was pissed/suspicious that Trump was not mentioned in the 2011 emails as he was being investigated
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the birthday card about “secrets”
Trump has disputed this and has filed a defamation lawsuit about the card
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:25 am to _Hurricane_
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And this board will just accept this cope. They’d be asking for heads of anyone else who hung around a known pedophile, but Trump will get a pass on anything that isn’t him actually touching kids.
Maybe you're right, maybe we should hold a firm line, etc. But human nature is obviously different.
Even Giuffre's accounts regularly acknowledge that she wasn't sure when girls were of age and underage. I'm sure that added a layer to Epstein's other associates. They probably told themselves the girl walking around his house who had no reason to be there was 19 - and maybe she was. But they probably strongly suspected (or knew) some of them weren't - and that was true too. I'm sure many of them - perhaps Trump - were absolutely certain about what Epstein was into, but didn't have any real evidence beyond off hand comments and seeing girls who looked out of place with a 45 year old guy.
Trump should have cut all ties with anyone he suspected was foraying into that stuff - I agree. But he didn't, nor did a bunch of other business associates, politicians, hedge fund managers, celebrities, so forth. If we want to, as a country, decide they're all culpable, that's a fair take.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:29 am to _Hurricane_
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Y’all defending this shite like you wouldn’t be all over the slightest rumor of improper conduct by a Dem. And then accusing anyone who thinks these look bad is just upset that Trump is President. I voted for the man 3 times.
Defending? How is asking a very viable question, like “why did the democrats sit on any damning information only to lose the election” defending anything? And also asking why the victims have not named Trump or family as any abusers?
Viable questions. Zero answers
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:29 am to Barneyrb
quote:Harmful to Trump, but way more harmful to Clinton.
If there had been anything harmful to Trump in the files don't you think Biden and company would have put it out there
Both parties have suppressed the files to protect their own.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:31 am to dgnx6
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And it points more towards former president gets massage from 20 year old and less to elites are drinking the blood of children.
Pretty huge gap here TBH
I definitely don't think we know everything about this worth knowing. Giuffre claims she was pimped out to hedge fund manager Glenn Dubin while his wife was pregnant and she was underage. I'm sure there are a couple dozen others like that. They may not involve Clinton or a prince, but I'm sure there are plenty of notables involved.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:32 am to _Hurricane_
Once again will the mental midgets explain why the Biden Administration didn’t release anything if there was any “there, there”?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:32 am to BBONDS25
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what better evidence than direct evidence? Dummy.
You should just admit you posted a lie instead of playing this silly game.
Trump did not, as you claimed, "ask the judge to release the files." Reasonable people understand that "the files:" refer to
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300 gigabytes of data, paper, video, photographs, and audio that live within the FBI’s main electronic case management system, “Sentinel.” These records would include investigative reports and records from the FBI Miami field division’s original Epstein investigation. The bulk of the records would come from the second investigation carried out by the FBI’s New York Office, including memorandums about the investigation and potential targets, locations to be searched, records to be subpoenaed, and hundreds of pages of “302s” which are the forms that FBI agents use to memorialize what witnesses, victims and suspects said in interviews by investigators.
This is not what Trump asked for. The Grand Jury testimony was only testimony from an FBI agent and a New York Police Department detective. No victims. No witnesses.
You posted a lie. When called on it you spew insults and deflection.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
Waiting till just before mid terms lol.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:35 am to ABearsFanNMS
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Once again will the mental midgets explain why the Biden Administration didn’t release anything if there was any “there, there”?
I won't be shocked at all if when the Democrats resume power, we're doing this again, with Republicans clamoring for releases of information and floating/leaking things learned in this administration out.
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