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re: New development tonight: senators working on comprehensive deal: wall for bunch of stuff

Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108164 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:18 pm to
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What is TPS


He spelled Trump Derangement Syndrome incorrectly (TDS)
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20700 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:22 pm to
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horseshite. Their base are mindless sheep


If you think the loony left is just gonna shrug their shoulders if the Dems provide Trump funding on his number 1 campaign issue, you haven’t been paying attention the past 2 years. You can’t spin giving Trump 5 billion for a border wall, I don’t care what kind of goodies you get in return.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19322 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:23 pm to
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symbolic wall.




Right, because we all no big, bad arse walls would never slow or deter illegal crossings. It is solely symbolic.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5110 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:24 pm to
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No it wouldn’t? Have had to use it several times in rural areas where we couldn’t find enough locals capable of passing a drug test (East Tennessee). Worked well for everyone involved.


I'm not going to argue with you about your anecdotal evidence but nationally it's very clear that the H2B visa program is being abused for the cheap labor.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41477 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:28 pm to
Trump offered up DACA reform early on and they rejected it.

One of the Dems talking points is the wall is useless and doesn’t solve anything. If that is the case then you would think they would do it since they are getting all the other stuff in exchange for something that doesn’t matter anyway.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:28 pm to
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If you think the loony left is just gonna shrug their shoulders if the Dems provide Trump funding on his number 1 campaign issue, you haven’t been paying attention the past 2 years.


I have. And they won't shrug their shoulders at it. They will actively champion it as their own idea that they've always supported. You watch.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:31 pm to
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Why the frick is it that the GOP is always the one doing the compromising.


Agreed.

Wall..

Deport..

Wish to come back legally get in line.

Simple. Break the law you pay the price. I thought we were a nation of laws. But we know how that goes.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12449 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:41 pm to
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As long as that does not entail a path to citizenship or welfare I am cool with it.

If they stay here, the Dems will eventually give them all voting status. Book it.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20930 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:48 pm to
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$5.7B for the wall - plus provisions to entice Dems: DACA, TPS, H2B


Ok, frick that.

If we're gonna start making deals with that stuff. Then that amount of money is peanuts.

Fully fund it with 15+ billion, and lets get into E-Verify, Voter ID, Taxing remittances etc.. we have more tools than just the wall for leverage.
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
5216 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:59 pm to
No frick this. No fricking compromise. The time for that is past. They either sign off on the wall or shite stays shutdown.

Now you throw national votor id into the mix and we might reconsider. Until then pound sand.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 10:01 pm
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20930 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:00 pm to
Down.

Don't have to ask me twice.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46371 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:01 pm to
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wall


I like


quote:

for bunch of stuff


I don't like


Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:04 pm to
Building the wall allows us to greatly curb catch and release which is HUGE.

That's why Dems dont want a wall. They want catch, briefly detain, then release.

Non-citizenship Amnesty with a reformed pathway to citizenship with delayed voting rights for non-criminal illegals is something I could compromise on. They're already here and we have the ability to curb more coming in.

E-verify needs to be part of this too.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:06 pm to
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In Graham’s office, GOP senators discussed an immigration deal - $5.7B for the wall - plus provisions to entice Dems: DACA, TPS, H2B. Kushner told them if it has wall money and can pass Senate, WH would be open to further talks. Rs now plan to pitch Ds
McConnell is a dolt. All he's done the last three weeks is fold his arms and repeat over and over that he won't bring anything to the floor that Trump won't sign.

He's about ready to be put out to pasture.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20930 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:07 pm to
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Non-citizenship Amnesty with a reformed pathway to citizenship with delayed voting rights for non-criminal illegals is something I could compromise on. They're already here and we have the ability to curb more coming in.



Republicans would frick themselves if they even begin to talk about this with the Left.

Charlie and the Football.
Posted by Ham Malone
Member since Nov 2010
2640 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:07 pm to
It’s being abused by that guy too, if he increased wages a citizen would be willing to take the job.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78138 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:12 pm to
All of that bullshite should get 26 billion for the wall. Trump should keep the 18% of govt shuttered with no compromise for a measly 5.7 billion.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78138 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:14 pm to
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Non-citizenship Amnesty with a reformed pathway to citizenship with delayed voting rights for non-criminal illegals
Nope. They all need to GTFO.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20700 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:18 pm to
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I have. And they won't shrug their shoulders at it. They will actively champion it as their own idea that they've always supported. You watch.


No they won’t. This is the winner take all battle. If Trump caves, he’s done. If the Dems cave, they’re done. You don’t give the bad orange man his wall and claim victory. The lunatic left will not accept border wall funding under any circumstances. It’s why they said no to the massive DACA concessions that Trump offered the first time around.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:49 pm to
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Just don't tell Ann Coulter if they give them some DREAMERS she is a full blown loon.
It would be difficult to think of someone who is more self important than Coulter.
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