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re: New Details on Tonight's Speech

Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:13 am to
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:13 am to
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If Trump expects any sort of political victory here, he will need to show that not only were the databases hacked, but that the mail-in ballots were in fact produced, mailed in, and counted.


Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11359 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:14 am to
based on sfp dialogue, I don't understand anything.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
3320 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:16 am to
You literally said why does this act matter if the cbs reports are true. Again you love to dance and act like you didn’t say shite that’s easily accessible.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
40364 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:16 am to
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So you are on record that the presentation is going to include domestic fraud allegations?

And this is where the plan rises or falls, right? Trump says some things and the media comes out and spins it, mocks it. So the plan is for Trump to do what then? Arrests and regular old trials? Military tribunals? Immediate executions and jailings?

And what about uranium one?


Here's another one that is, for some reason, desperate to get people to make predictions on the internet.

This mindset is so bizarre to me.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18272 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:16 am to
You really think some people,American citizens weren’t involve in this shite. Those that were are very nervous right about now. I ain’t very smart, but I’m smart enough to realize China Venezuela Italy and others around the world didn’t do this without help from inside the USA maybe help form some conservatives.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18272 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:19 am to
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In what way is this partisan?
. Spoken like a true liberal damn dude. Dude really!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480540 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:19 am to
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You literally said why does this act matter if the cbs reports are true.


No I did not "literally" say that, or anything close to that.

I literally say this:

quote:

What does this have to do with what I said?


And that wasn't even about the SAVE Act.

But, China accessing voter information has no policy or factual overlap with what the SAVE Act is trying to do. Me understanding that basic fact doesn't say anything about my personal policy preferences about voter ID

But I'll tell you them now. I support state-based regulations like what we have in LA which require showing a valid State-issued ID. I hope other states adopt similar regulations and believe this is the dominion of the states, not fedgov. I also support state-based compacts like ERIC that help monitor when "dead registrations" occur from death, moving, etc. to help remove those from voter rolls.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16948 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:20 am to
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I don't doubt China would and probably did interfere, but I do doubt they left bread crumbs like a huge recognizable logo on envelopes full of fake ballots.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
27130 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:20 am to
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What does this have to do with what I said?


That China wanted Biden in office rather than Trump. The manipulation of ballots was skewed in favor of the left.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480540 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:22 am to
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That China wanted Biden in office rather than Trump.


And?

How does only accessing voter information overlap with China wanting Biden in office? I'm presuming your statement is correct for the purposes of this question, mind you.

quote:

The manipulation of ballots was skewed in favor of the left.


Ah, you proved my assumption correct. You're adding to what I said which leads back to:

quote:

What does this have to do with what I said?


Note: nothing I said involved "manipulation of ballots"

Go re-review my words you quoted

quote:

Reporting China only accessed voter information is good for the Left/DEMs and bad for MAGA.


I added bold to help you
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 8:23 am
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
40364 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:23 am to
Doubt it all you want. It's right there staring you in the face.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18272 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:24 am to
Pictures don’t lie and there are bread crumbs all over the place, another trait of the left, they are smart but not smart enough to cover all the bases. They always end up fricking themselves
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
24696 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:25 am to
“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.”

- Joseph Stalin

There is no doubt now that America is looking a lot like its poll workers!!

Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9350 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:29 am to
Nice picture. It could be a slide shown tonight, along with others.

Here is the issue for Trump....After almost 6 years of talk, he finally has a chance to present concrete evidence that fraud took place (which anyone with a modicum of deductive reasoning knows happened).

This is his shot. He has to show exactly how the fraud occurred.

If he can't do that, he is spending political capital that he can't get back.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480540 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Here's another one that is, for some reason, desperate to get people to make predictions on the internet.

This mindset is so bizarre to me.


Considering how often you are so wrong, it isn't bizarre to us.

I even have explained to you multiple times over the past couple of days why people are asking you these questions.

Like I described yesterday, we want to avoid more "bio labs" dishonesty and kernel of truth fallacies. We're trying to get you to agree beforehand that certain possible information outcomes prevent you from expanding your claims outside of the limitations of the actual information (via the kernel of truth fallacy or just making shite up)

The fact that you are so scared to potentially limit your post-release imagination and succeptibiilty to online influence is telling.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
40070 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:30 am to
Sidenote: Rubio is letting it rip right now, in a speech about "Political Terrorism". He is drawing a line in the sand and defining both sides.

Trump will back it up tonight.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480540 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Here is the issue for Trump....After almost 6 years of talk, he finally has a chance to present concrete evidence that fraud took place (which anyone with a modicum of deductive reasoning knows happened).

This is his shot. He has to show exactly how the fraud occurred.

If he can't do that, he is spending political capital that he can't get back.


This framing is EXACTLY why it's important to limit dishonesty post-press conference. The last thing we want is to permit dishonest actors to spin the actual information or use irrationality or fallacies to influence NPCs who rely on content from the echo chamber.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
40013 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:32 am to
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Weak sauce to predicate passage of the Save Act


81 million votes

More than Black Jesus


Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27902 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:36 am to
We need clear evidence and facts from experts who have been involved in the investigations and can clearly lay it all out. What we don’t need is more of the same, and an evidence drop on Friday where everyone is “digging” through this themselves and this is drug out with X accounts extending their theories on what happened.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
40364 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:37 am to
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The fact that you are so scared to potentially limit your post-release imagination and succeptibiilty to online influence is telling.


The fact that you're wish casting scenarios in which these reports are wrong because it is going to prove you to look like the stupid a-hole we all know you are is telling. They're telling you he is going to talk about China creating fake mail-in ballots and that the CIA was aware of all of this and did nothing. You are wish casting none of this is true because you've created dozens, if not hundreds of posts now, telling people that none of this will happen and that it will have nothing to do with anything domestic.

And don't get me started on your sorry arse asking other people for predictions while never committing to anything similar yourself. Everyone sees you think other people should be held to different standards than yourself because that's how narcissists behave.
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