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re: New Details on Tonight's Speech

Posted on 7/16/26 at 6:48 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 6:48 am to
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Speaking of China though. Xi began a purge of "corrupt officials" in his Government shortly after Trump left China this last time. It seems Xi gave up the goods on all this to Trump during his last trip.

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Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16833 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 6:49 am to
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I'm sure they have the evidence, but it would have been nice to pull that thread back up from the ashes as this stuff is verified. It was not received well at all at the time. "BoarEd is a conspiracy theorist!!!"

Whatever supporting information was posted in that thread can still be posted again.

For example: LINK

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(TNND) — There is another thread unraveling in a Chinese plot to disrupt the 2020 election, this time involving an attempt to delete or destroy a memo.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has sent two reports to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley.

According to the reports obtained by Just the News, a confidential source told the FBI in the summer 2020 that China’s communist government was shipping fake driver’s licenses to the United States to manufacture “tens of thousands of fraudulent mail-in votes” for former President Joe Biden.

The report was sent to U.S. intelligence agencies on August 24th, 2020, as an uncorroborated advisory, then suddenly recalled saying that the bureau wanted to “re-interview” the source.”

The recall notice specifically asked spy agencies to erase or delete the original intelligence memo. “This report was recalled in order to re-interview the source. Recipients should destroy all copies of the original report and remove the original report from all computer holdings.”

Some information from this report had been corroborated when the Customs and Border Patrol reported capturing 19,888 fake driver’s licenses in July of 2020. All of these licenses were reportedly headed to battle ground states in the mid-west.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480540 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 6:51 am to
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ostensibly to manufacture mail-in ballots for Biden.

Is this his spin or will the speech have actual evidence of this? This seems like spin
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 6:53 am to

PDJT has a time machine and he uses it.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47316 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:09 am to
Legit, American ballots have a water mark on them. These Chinese ballots that were dumped in by the thousands, did not have the water mark.

I would like some announcements of who is being perp-walked for taking these from the ricers to dump into the pile of real ballots.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95080 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:11 am to
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Why do y'all get your hopes up? When has anyone of significance ever gone to jail? This will be another nothing burger.


Like clockwork.

All this is bullshite theater. A bunch of people playing characters on tv throwing out accusations and saying the same shite over and over again to make people talk and argue on social media.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480540 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:11 am to
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Legit, American ballots have a water mark on them. These Chinese ballots that were dumped in by the thousands, did not have the water mark.



That doesn't appear to be what will be discussed tonight

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Intelligence agencies also found China did not "interfere with election infrastructure," including vote-counting
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The report found "no indications" that any foreign actors attempted to alter voter registrations, the casting of ballots, vote-counting or any other "technical aspect" of the 2020 election process.
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"We assess that it would be difficult for a foreign actor to manipulate election processes at scale without detection by intelligence collection on the actors themselves, through physical and cyber security monitoring around voting systems across the country, or in post-election audits," the report read.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
24162 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:13 am to

Most secure election ever.
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
51066 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:21 am to
The news and media won't care about evidence, they will use this to say Seeeeeeeeeee he still denies it and he will cheat again or some shite like that. The white liberal women will eat it up and the cycle will continue.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480540 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:22 am to
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The news and media won't care about evidence


I think it's much more likely the news and media will over-report the actual evidence and MAGA is the one who won't care about that, and will pivot to making shite up and dot connecting instead.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
27130 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:27 am to
It's not surprising, unless you think there are that many idiots out there that would vote for a vegetable for president and to secure a record 81 million votes. So, either it was stolen, or we have a load of morons.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32953 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:29 am to
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China Did Not Attempt to Influence
Presidential Election Outcome

We assess that China did not deploy interference efforts and considered but did not deploy influence efforts intended to change the outcome of the US presidential election. We have high confidence in this judgment. China sought stability in its relationship with the United States and did not view either election outcome as being advantageous enough for China to risk blowback if caught. Beijing probably believed that its traditional influence tools, primarily targeted economic measures and lobbying key individuals and interest groups, would be sufficient to achieve its goal of shaping

US policy regardless of who won the election. We did not identify China attempting to interfere with election infrastructure or provide funding to any candidates or parties.


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Beijing probably continued to collect intelligence on election-related targets and topics some—and later increased—its election influence efforts, especially over the summer of 2020. The NIO assesses these indications are more persuasive than other information indicating that China decided not to intervene. The NIO further assesses
China probably also continued longstanding efforts to gather information on US voters and public opinion; political parties, candidates and their staffs; and senior
government officials. We assess Beijing probably sought to use this information to predict electoral outcomes and to inform its efforts to influence US policy toward China
under either election outcome, as it has during all election cycles since at least 2008 and considers an acceptable tool of statecraft.

We assess Beijing did not interfere with election infrastructure, including vote tabulation or the transmission of election results..


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Minority View

The National Intelligence Officer for Cyber assesses that China took at least some steps to undermine former President Trump’s reelection chances, primarily through social media and official public statements and media. The NIO agrees with the IC's view that Beijing was primarily focused on countering anti-China policies, but assesses that some of Beijing's influence efforts were intended to at least indirectly affect US candidates, political processes, and voter preferences, meeting the definition for election influence used in this report.
The NIO agrees that we have no information
suggesting China tried to interfere with election processes. The NIO has moderate confidence in these judgments.

This view differs from the IC assessment because it gives more weight to indications that Beijing preferred former President Trump’s defeat and the election of a more predictable member of the establishment instead, and that Beijing implemented


LINK

Weak sauce to predicate passage of the Save Act.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69573 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:30 am to
I hate the media and I'm sure they will respond with debunked/unverified/without evidence/conspiracy theory. That said, Trump should not be doing pressers unless he has some smoking gun type thing. That's why I thought the Stop the Steal rally and whatever was supposed to happen in Congress that day were stupid. He got people's hopes up that a kraken was going to be released and all he did was get his supporters punked by the justice system. Let Patel or Pulte handle the disclosure.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
40364 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:34 am to
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This seems like spin


Oh, it seems like spin, does it?

I told you explicitly only yesterday that this would be about China. "Almost certainly". And some of us have been telling you folks exactly what they did since the time it frickin happened. And now you have a reporter telling you that's what is coming. But in your stupid world it "seems like spin."

What it seems to me like is you spent all day yesterday being flat wrong. Will you own up to it, like you are constantly trying to demand from others, when you ask them to make predictions and then eat crow if those predictions don't pan out?
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 7:41 am
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
27130 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:34 am to
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Weak sauce to predicate passage of the Save Act.


Thanks for the 5 year old report and released during Biden's term. I believe this is new information gathered from "lost" or "destroyed" files.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32953 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:36 am to
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I believe this is new information gathered from "lost" or "destroyed" files.


You sure about that?
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
40364 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:36 am to
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I think it's much more likely the news and media will over-report the actual evidence


Oh, you think the media that has denied this was all real since it happened is going to over-report the evidence, do ya?


You're so damn dumb.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480540 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:37 am to
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I told you explicitly only yesterday that this would be about China

Sure. Cool.

That really isn't important to my point yesterday.

We can revisit this from yesterday, though:

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And if all the report does is reference foreign interference and it has no impact on the domestic investigations, you'll admit how wrong you were?


Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
27130 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:38 am to
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That said, Trump should not be doing pressers unless he has some smoking gun type thing.


Trump has long been frustrated at the media's lack of reporting and dismissing what evidence they have as lackluster. We'll see if this is new declassified info moves the needle. To think Biden got a record 81 million votes is suspect.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
40364 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:39 am to
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quote:

Legit, American ballots have a water mark on them. These Chinese ballots that were dumped in by the thousands, did not have the water mark.



That doesn't appear to be what will be discussed tonight


You're desperately wish casting at this point.
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