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Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:46 am to Lindbergh
Looks like a “jogger” to me!
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:48 am to Lindbergh
Whole lot of dumb in that video. That situation could have turned out a lot worse or better.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:48 am to oogabooga68
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Have they been found guilty?
Arbery hasn't been found guilty of any type of theft, or even trespassing, that day. So why do you get so mad when the MSM says he was a jogger?
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:49 am to ShortyRob
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I think literally everything the McMichaels did in this case was dumb other than perhaps following long enough to get good video or IDing him.
I’ve said this many times. But you are a racist for not believing the media and their facts about the case after being bludgeoned with it time and time again. They’re just on this message board winning hearts and minds.
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But, go for murder in this case, and they walk. People can get mad all they like about it. That's just what's gonna happen.
Again, said the same thing. Was told the jury could come back with manslaughter.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:50 am to oogabooga68
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But the average citizen feels helpless when many of these local governments have decided that they aren't going to prosecute ANYONE who steals less than $750.
I know this. But, to my point again.
Cops, who theoretically trained to deal with interactions with citizens, have the situations go bad. This is simply the nature of such interactions. SOME will go bad.
By definition, this means untrained people will have MORE go bad. Now, don't get me wrong. I'd be perfectly OK with chasing that fricker down the street if he just ran out of your house after pushing your wife out of the way. And yeah, I know that's not legal either. So. I'm on board with you somewhat.
I just think that we also have to acknowledge that if you set a paradigm where stops like the McMichaels hoped to conduct...……...even if they did it under 100% unambiguously legal circumstances...…..is just a recipe for bad shite.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:51 am to roadGator
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You may want to simmer down.
Let him go. He’s a race cheerleader on angel dust at this point.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:52 am to Errerrerrwere
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Again, said the same thing. Was told the jury could come back with manslaughter.
There has been much written on the dangers of trying to prosecute a higher charge that you end up unable to sustain and then asking for a lower conviction.
It is done, but it is fraught with challenges and unwise.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:54 am to More&Les
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Doesn't matter if they were Barney fricking purple or if Arbery were beautiful bad man orange, its a fricking murder and a fricking cover up and all that other shite YOU are trying to inject is irrelevant, so please frick off.
My name isn't David. You don't have a fricking clue what point I'm making. My point is until interracial violent crime and murder are committed proportionately in relation to population percentages and the amount of white on black violent crime and murder I could not fricking care less.
Morally bankrupt trash like you want to ignore all of the abundant interracial violent crime and murder committed by blacks against whites and highlight every rare instance of white on black interracial violent crime and murder.
There have been at least 14 white people killed by blacks since the February 23rd murder of Ahmaud Arbery.
Black people should be extremely thankful that white people haven't hit the point of being fed up to the point that we take matters into our own hands.
You might not give a shite but that 3 year old was somebody's grandson and those three octogenarians that have been murdered by black people in the last 7 days have grandchildren and children that love them and they were a whole hell of a lot more innocent than Ahmaud Arbery.
The last four white people to be murdered by black people in America were 3 years old, 85 years old, 86 years old and 80 years old.
Everyone should have a fricking problem with that.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:54 am to roadGator
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I was responding to a sane progressive and I want to know if he sees his inconsistency on this matter.
Im the least "progressive" person you know. Im a card carrying MAGA Republican.
That said, Ive stated my reasoning about this case numerous times, this AINT the hill we want to die on. The media is the lying arse absolute enemy of the people of the United States but if we defend the actions of these McDumbasses and their local buddies we are absolutely legitimizing the notion of "____ while black"
This happens to be a case where the media doesn't have to lie to forward their agenda
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:58 am to More&Les
quote:And yet they still did and are.
This happens to be a case where the media doesn't have to lie to forward their agenda
Which, should at least make your antenna go up.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:58 am to roadGator
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How do you know that?
Because I read about the confrontation in a separate article before I watched the video.
Even if I hadn't, if that were a point of contention you would have heard it discussed in the video.
Even if I were wrong about that (which I'm not, unless the article I read is), when does parking in the wrong spot at a park warrant being searched for weapons and the threat of tasing?
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:59 am to ShortyRob
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is just a recipe for bad shite.
Agreed, but I'm saying that there's an underlying feeling of helplessness on the part of the "good guys" that lead to people doing stupid zhit.
I don't know if it's as simple as redneck-bravado or people being really, really fed up with the police showing up, filing a report then throwing it in the trash.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:59 am to ShortyRob
I read a really over-the-top puff piece on Arbery which I will do the service of not linking here. It is a full-on hagiography. The press tries to make these binary decisions for us. White/black. Good/bad. It’s obviously more complex than all of that.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:03 am to oogabooga68
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Agreed, but I'm saying that there's an underlying feeling of helplessness on the part of the "good guys" that lead to people doing stupid zhit.
In the larger context of Brunswick, I could agree with this. It seems to be a town with an out-of-size crime problem for its population. This neighborhood does not have same distinction. There were multiple trespasses on the property. But the one that seems to bother the neighborhood is the black guy. I say seems because I don’t have perfect knowledge of the situation. But it appears that the neighborhood is very concerned with the black guy trespassing and not the couple.
Which goes back to the issue of perception and what we’re so sure of that often turns out to be incorrect.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:04 am to Lindbergh
This definitely adds to my theory that he was using the house as a drug drop.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:06 am to Lindbergh
Nothing wrong with that encounter except the cops harassing a man NOT BREAKING THE LAW
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:07 am to the808bass
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But the one that seems to bother the neighborhood is the black guy. I say seems because I don’t have perfect knowledge of the situation. But it appears that the neighborhood is very concerned with the black guy trespassing and not the couple.
Statistically speaking, concern about a lone black man "trespassing" is more justified than the couple.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:09 am to Lindbergh
I keep waiting for one of these bastards to turn out to be an Eagle Scout type, and a pillar of the community. Just one of them. Trayvon. Michael Smith. The Baltimore dude. Alton Lister, whose toxicology report was ordered to be "sealed up" by Loretta Lynch (gosh, I wonder why?).
Just once, you'd think ONE OF THEM would turn out to be something other than a two-bit thug.
PS - Still waiting.
Just once, you'd think ONE OF THEM would turn out to be something other than a two-bit thug.
PS - Still waiting.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:09 am to oogabooga68
Statistically speaking. Sure. I’m not trying to make this overly racial. It’s not about race. It’s about “otherness.” Probably to some extent for both Arbery and the McMichaels.
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