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re: Nearly 1/2 of female soldiers still failing new Army fitness test, while males pass easily
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:35 pm to EKG
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:35 pm to EKG
They need to get rid of the male soldiers so the females don't feel bad. It's more important that they feel good than having an army physically fit enough for combat.
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:39 pm to AthensTiger
Back in the day 18 minutes for max points on 3 miles and 28:01 to fail. Never maxed the run, break 19 on occasion. Once age begin creaking in, 22-23 minutes for me. Pull ups were always my downfall, never did more than 15. No matter, how I trained, worked out. For me to do pull-ups, I had to do pull-ups 3-4 times a week. And none of that kipping shite either, dead hang all the way!
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:48 pm to The Maj
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Hey, they asked for equal treatment... let them have equal tests...
I agree, but it's a problematic thing...
When the feminists scream loud enough, the armed forces will once again relax their standards again and again until females have a 95% pass rate. Not good, in general, for anyone.
It's like "No Child Left Behind" but with the country's primary defense organizations. You'd think we'd look around and see that the Chinese army and hardcore military units like tthe Russian Spetsnaz are absolutely laughing their asses off at the thought of a bunch of green haired hyper-lesbians with pink pussy hats storming the battlefield representing the USA.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:55 pm to EKG
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The most difficult event for both male and female soldiers is the two-mile run, with 5% and 22% failing, respectively. The run must be completed within 21 minutes.
You can almost fast walk 2 miles in that time.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:51 am to EKG
Rather than starting a new thread, I will just add this to yours...
Army Mulls Returning to Gendered Fitness Standards over Complaints of 'Lopsided' ACFT
Army Mulls Returning to Gendered Fitness Standards over Complaints of 'Lopsided' ACFT
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25 May 2021
Military.com | By Steve Beynon
The Army is considering adding gender-specific standards to its new Army Combat Fitness Test, or ACFT, after early data shows nearly half of female soldiers can't pass the test and might face being removed from service once it becomes official next year.
Service officials, including Sergeant Major of the Army Michael Grinston, testified before a House Appropriations Committee subpanel Monday that scores may end up being separated by gender to identify the 1st, 10th, 25th and 50th percentile of soldiers.
In practice, this could mean men and women still would have to meet the same standards but would not be compared to one another. Physical fitness scores are heavily considered in promotions, especially in combat-arms jobs such as infantry and cavalry.
Army officials said one possibility would be to note the soldier's percentile ranking in their record. For example, the record could show the soldier was in the top 10% of fitness ability among their gender across the Army.
Grinston, along with Lt. Gen. Jason Evans, deputy chief of staff of the Army, and Jack Surash, acting assistant secretary of the Army for installations, energy and environment, outlined this idea in written testimony given to lawmakers ahead of the hearing. The plan was not discussed in detail.
"We expect all soldiers to meet the exact same minimum standards, regardless of age, gender, or occupational specialty," the trio said in their combined written testimony.
The news comes shortly after Military.com obtained internal Army data showing that 44% of women are failing the ACFT, compared to 7% of men. The data suggests women get better at the test as they become more familiar. Failing to pass an official fitness test can quickly lead to a soldier being booted out of the military; at this time, ACFT scores do not count against those who take them.
But simply passing the test isn't enough to help a soldier rise through the ranks. In many cases, high scores can open up opportunities for women to attend training such as the Air Assault and Ranger schools, which can greatly improve their promotion chances. Good physical fitness scores can quickly turn into career progression.
Even among those women who can pass the ACFT, most aren't maxing their scores. Only 66 female soldiers have scored a 500 or higher since October, compared to 31,978 men, according to data from April. The minimum score soldiers need to reach is 360; 600 is a perfect score.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:19 am to EKG
Female Firefighter
This story always made me laugh when you think about them letting them through or dropping fitness standards.
This story always made me laugh when you think about them letting them through or dropping fitness standards.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:25 am to EKG
When I was in the Army I could run and do pushups all day long. Situps were my nemesis. After 75 situps I was nauseous to the point of of doing dry barfing.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:25 am to EKG
This is no surprise. Although women many women may possess the same cognitive strength as many men, most do not possess the same physical strength and never will achieve this strength. Women are only fooling themselves.
Since women were first allowed to join the military, there have been incidents of sexual harassment and abuse. What did they expect, since male and female troops spent so much time together?
Since women were first allowed to join the military, there have been incidents of sexual harassment and abuse. What did they expect, since male and female troops spent so much time together?
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:26 am to Warfarer
I'm sure our enemy in combat will take the same measures to make it fair. 
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:27 am to Warfarer
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Female Firefighter
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:29 am to Wolfhound45
This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:48 am to EKG
You can get a 540 and still fail.
If you don't pass an event you score 0 for that event.
What should be greatly concerning is the fact that people are failing the run when the minimum score is 21:07
If you don't pass an event you score 0 for that event.
What should be greatly concerning is the fact that people are failing the run when the minimum score is 21:07
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:49 am to The Maj
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Hey, they asked for equal treatment... let them have equal tests...
Except the PC crowd are lowering the standards so more can pass them...kind of like public school is doing. When I was in, the whole idea was to change the way an individual thinks to make team members where you perform as one. I surely don't remember anyone asking the First Sgt. could they be excused because "it's too hard"!
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:49 am to Wolfhound45
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Even among those women who can pass the ACFT, most aren't maxing their scores
Most MEN don't max the ACFT! What a fricking stupid statement.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:53 am to EKG
To the OP, having taken the ACFT when it was still in development last year, every woman I saw fail the events didn't fail because they weren't strong enough. They failed because of poor technique.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:55 am to Wolfhound45
I saw this yesterday, Wolfie.
Glad you posted/updated.
Congratulations btw.
Glad you posted/updated.
Congratulations btw.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:58 am to Atiger88
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Women dont belong in the military,they should be raising children.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:59 am to EKG
2 miles in 21 mins wont win many battles in a war
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:05 am to EKG
Women can't lift as much as men because gravity was created by the patriarchy to oppress them.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:07 am to EKG
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The most difficult event for both male and female soldiers is the two-mile run, with 5% and 22% failing, respectively. The run must be completed within 21 minutes.
Any soldier that can't do this should be sent out. Holy shite. I figured it was like 15-16 minutes.
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