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re: Nation’s poorest states have Republican legislatures; richest have Democrat

Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:12 pm to
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And just so you know, the rich do get richer . But the beauty is the poor get richer TOO. See that’s capitalism. A state college guy like myself can make 30,000 grand one decade and the next make that every month. See, that’s how it works. We have upward mobility. We MOVE dynamically through The socioeconomic strata .It’s a beautiful thing and it is a virtuous thing.


You can still do that and have more Health Care and better education. I'm not a freakin communist over here. I have three businesses of my own.

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State control kills upward mobility


I'm not asking everyone to vote for the Patriot Act here, in fact, if I had my way critical thinking would have such an emphasis that people probably would have never given up their freedoms for the Patriot Act.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134935 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:15 pm to
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I have three businesses of my own.
But isn’t this time of year slow for mowing people’s grass??
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46870 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:17 pm to
Correlation is not causation
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:33 pm to
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And the party of slavery
the party of anti reconciliation during reconstruction
the party of that killed John Brown
the party of Jim Crowe
the party of against Civil Rights
the party who killed Lincoln, JFK, MLK, Bobby Kennedy and shot Reagan and Scalise
the party that has run Chicago and Detroit into decline, chaos and collapse
the party of Mobs, not jobs

go blue!



OP will have a hard debating those FACTS.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:37 pm to
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But isn’t this time of year slow for mowing people’s grass??


are you making fun of landscaping businesses? Seems really elitist of you. I guess no one ever force you to go out and do manual labor when you were a kid or else you would know that right now is a perfect time to mow grass because it's been raining a bunch and it's still not under 60 degrees.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134935 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:03 pm to
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are you making fun of landscaping businesses?
Nah, I’m making fun of you.
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Seems really elitist of you.
Are you implying I’m not elite?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:26 pm to
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Nah, I’m making fun of you.


Oh. I couldnt tell. I thought you didn't know anything about mowing lawns or weather patterns and I was totally trying to help you out so you wouldn't embarrass yourself in front of a bunch of landscapers. Now I realize that you're just hilarious with great subtle humor. I just reread it and I'm laughing super hard now. Great job. You should be a comedian.

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Are you implying I’m not elite?


After that joke, i will never doubt you again.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63498 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:30 pm to
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Nation’s poorest states have Republican legislatures; richest have Democrat
Oh goody! A lame single-variable model for an entire state's economy. Seems reasonable.

Well, reasonable in a "everyone that eats carrots will die!" kinda way.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:33 pm to
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everyone that eats carrots will die!


But everyone that eats Carrots will in fact die
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63498 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:35 pm to
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The socio-economic Divide gets larger and the top 1% gets richer. You trying to say that no one takes me seriously is just you avoiding this fact that you know to be true.
You have not idea what anyone knows. Not that it matters. You haven't shown a lick of data. Please show us...

1/ where the top 1% gets "poorer" under democrat administrations

2/ Why the wealth of the top 1% has any effect on anyone else's wealth.

Good luck. You're gonna need it.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63498 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:37 pm to
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But everyone that eats Carrots will in fact die
100% of them. Broccoli too. But it doesn't mean carrots will cause anything to happen.

There's as much causality established in the above as the thread's OP.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 11:38 pm
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:39 pm to
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100% of them. Broccoli too. But it doesn't mean carrots will cause anything to happen.

There's as much causality established in the above as the thread's OP.


I was kidding. I understand your point
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:45 pm to
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Yes. The very rich prefer to vote Democratic. They prefer crony capitalism.


Why do you always just make up information?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86171 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:56 pm to
You are a deluded man drowning in self regard who does not know what he does not know. The State is a false God . Because the evidence is in, and it is overwhelmingly depressing, only a Fundamentalist believes in State solutions. Obey your Orthodoxy. The rest of us though, are just going to continue to point at you and laugh.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:08 am to
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You are a deluded man drowning in self regard who does not know what he does not know. The State is a false God . Because the evidence is in, and it is overwhelmingly depressing, only a Fundamentalist believes in State solutions. Obey your Orthodoxy. The rest of us though, are just going to continue to point at you and laugh.


Well I'm not laughing at you. I'm actually just really disappointed at what a waste your intellect is. you totally didn't address anything that I wrote and went straight to pointing your finger and name-calling because you are a prisoner of your pride. You refuse to address any nuance and are trying to make it sound so much more extreme. I pity you, bro
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:12 am to
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I'm not for some state of government run everything or a communist or even a socialist.


6 words later:

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I believe that education and Health Care should be paid for by everyone.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:19 am to
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I'm not for some state of government run everything or a communist or even a socialist.


6 words later:

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I believe that education and Health Care should be paid for by everyone.


We would still be a capitalist Society. I don't understand what you guys don't get about that. I also don't understand why you guys are so dead set against education and health care for everyone. You get butthurt about the wrong things
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:30 am to
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also don't understand why you guys are so dead set against education and health care for everyone.


We literally already have that in this country. Congrats.

You can go to elementary and high school for free. Not everyone can or should go to college. That is a stupid concept that makes no sense. The federal government needs to get completely out of higher education. The world needs construction workers, plumbers, electricians, hvac techs, etc. And those people do not need to go to college for free for no reason other than for you to feel good about yourself. If you want to go to college then you pay for it yourself. If that's too hard then you don't deserve to go anyway.

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health care for everyone

Explain why you think this doesn't already exist and why you think the federal government running a completely non-competetive and tax funded limitless insurance program that caters to the poor and unhealthy at the expense of the healthy and middle class is a better idea than the private market.
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 12:32 am
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:31 am to
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Ebbandflow

I agree with most of your posts. Nothing you or I said can remotely be considered socialist.


We already pay for a public education system. What's wrong with ensuring all children have a quality education. That actually ties in with REAL conservative principles, since it develops you to be independent.

Only reasons I can assume

1) People on hear honestly believe the market is like 40 years ago before jobs started demanding degrees and higher requirements. Or they live in glass houses since they are successful, have social circles of other upper class people and pay for private schools.

2)Worse case, they know better but honestly dont care. As long as the "undesirables" and poor stay in their place and dont bother them.

I've seen all across the spectrum. Working with pours and well off people. Things are never like the other side sees.

As for healthcare. The US is the one of the only places where you have to be rich enough to afford decent healthcare.
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 12:35 am
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:37 am to
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program that caters to the poor and unhealthy at the expense of the healthy and middle class


Why wouldn't the medical industry cater more to the unhealthy? Come on man you really have to look at that and kind of laugh right? That's a pretty obtuse statement you made.

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You can go to elementary and high school for free. Not everyone can or should go to college


I really enjoyed College. I learned a lot. It really does benefit a person to have to go through critical thinking exercises and learn more about the world that they live in, whether or not they end up being plumbers.

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