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re: Nate Silver’s latest election model update has Kamala Harris winning for the first time

Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:15 pm to
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The Democrats learned one, AND ONLY ONE, lesson from Hillary’s election....

There can never be enough MASSIVE frickING VOTER FRAUD.


The frick does voter fraud in November have to do with polling in August?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66229 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:16 pm to
It’s hilarious that posters who constantly say you can’t trust the media have all bought in 100% to their latest lie about how well Kamala is doing and how Trump is making all kinds of mistakes all of the sudden.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64645 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:16 pm to
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It is crazy how he's changed since the debate.
It's almost like he had a near death experience or something.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14442 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465831 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:16 pm to
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He’s never backed away from a fight

There was no fight, though
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465831 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:17 pm to
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It's almost like he had a near death experience or something.


So his response is to devolve and focus on identity politics and attacking Republicans for no reason?
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23750 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:17 pm to
He debated Biden way too early. Any candidate can beat Trump other than Biden.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85938 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:18 pm to
No faith in any of this, but conservatives and christians having to endure this struggle session only for Trump to lose anyway sounds about right
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64645 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:21 pm to
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So his response is to devolve and focus on identity politics and attacking Republicans for no reason?
Why would he engage in legitimate campaigning against someone who could have still very likely been swapped out for yet another candidate? No VP pick, and at the time she wasn't even the official nominee. If he completely squashed her as soon as she popped her head up, he probably ends up running against Michelle, which would be a harder victory to get IMO.

It literally just turned August. We aren't voting tomorrow. Calm down on the whole "he ruined his campaign" thing. It's nowhere near over.

And if you think he's just attacking people "for no reason", you need to do some reading.
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 6:24 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22355 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:22 pm to
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Unfortunately, most Republican political strategists suck or aren’t really on the side of the guy running or the people voting for him.


Susie Wiles is really good and respected. I’m critical of Trump sometimes when it comes to campaigning, but choosing her definitely isn’t one. Trump would be smart to listen to her. Thinking she sucks or is against him is saying Trump willingly put someone incompetent in charge of his campaign. The GOP wins races across the country up and down the ballot and has a lot of good strategists.
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 6:25 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465831 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:23 pm to
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Why would he engage in legitimate campaigning against someone who could have still very likely been swapped out for yet another candidate?


Focusing on the issues was crushing the DEMs

Focusing on issues doesn't rely on a specific candidate on the other side.

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Calm down on the whole "he ruined his campaign" thing.

He can always shift back.

But he's fricking up now.

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And if you think he's just attacking people for no reason, you need to do some reading.

He's attacking people for likely emotional reasons, which won't win an election and only hurt him.

There is no logic or +EV strategy behind these attacks.
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
3980 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:25 pm to
I don’t know how anyone thinks attacking Kemp is an intelligent play.

Is there some hidden contingent of GOP voters in GA that weren’t voting for Trump because of anything Kemp said?

Do people like this exist anywhere? Is there any point in bringing attention to Kemp at all?

I’m not arguing on whether or not Kemp deserves to be shite on or if he helped steal with election. I’m asking what is the political point of attacking kemp?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64645 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:25 pm to
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He's attacking people for likely emotional reasons
He's attacking people with mounting evidence of treason. Look into what's coming out about Georgia in 2020. That's not emotional. That's what every American in this country should be doing.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42005 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:26 pm to
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Donald Trump has done more to elect Democrats than Democrats themselves.


That was clearly evident in 2016.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17484 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:27 pm to
The pollsters don’t understand a lot of folks who are voting for Trump won’t say it in the street because they don’t want some left hand sally telling them what a piece of shite they are.

They also want to avoid jail time for slapping the shite out of someone.
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
4858 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:27 pm to
If National is 51-49 Kamala Trump still wins narrowly. There are still plenty of ebbs and flows even with only about 90 days left. Focus on her weaknesses and all is good.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465831 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:27 pm to
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I don’t know how anyone thinks attacking Kemp is an intelligent play.


I'm sure a lot of people posting in defense of this stupidity don't actually believe it and just don't want to be labeled a heretic by the true believers.

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Is there some hidden contingent of GOP voters in GA that weren’t voting for Trump because of anything Kemp said?

Do people like this exist anywhere? Is there any point in bringing attention to Kemp at all?

No and No

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I’m asking what is the political point of attacking kemp?

muh fight
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22355 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:28 pm to
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Do people like this exist anywhere?


They don’t exist in Georgia considering he has an approval rate of 63% and won reelection in a landslide.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465831 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:28 pm to
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He's attacking people with mounting evidence of treason


Treason?

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Look into what's coming out about Georgia in 2020. That's not emotional. That's what every American in this country should be doing.

Ok let's assume your fantasy about treason is correct.

Can Trump prosecute people for treason if he loses in 2024?

How does attacking Kemp help him accomplish the goal of winning this time?
Posted by Optimism
Member since Jun 2024
782 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:30 pm to
Trump is doing the same as he was 2 mos ago. The difference is media is focused on promoting Kamala not getting rid of Biden. The polls have alot of response bias now in favor of Dems just like a few weeks ago the response bias was in favor of GOP need to wait 4 more weeks for it to settle out.
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