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Nate Silver graph: America testing per capita ahead of most major nations

Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:32 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:32 pm
but carry on that we are doing "the worst job"




This is why those graphs comparing national trajectories are insufficient.

The reason france appears to be bending is because they aren't accelerating testing like we are.


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Nate Silver
@NateSilver538
This suggests that the US is now somewhat above the median in COVID-19 case detection. Our testing is better than much of Europe, and we're picking up a higher share of infections than they are.


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Nate Silver
@NateSilver538

To take one salient example, per these estimates, the UK probably has about 2x as many infections per capita as the US, even though the US has more *reported cases* per capita.
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:34 pm to
I don't know if its my corona seltzers or if i am dumb but i dont understand that graph.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:36 pm to
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I don't know if its my corona seltzers or if i am dumb but i dont understand that graph.
it's a different method of measuring testing capacity.
Posted by IrishTiger89
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:37 pm to
How do those compare to Truly’s or White Claw’s?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:38 pm to
Not sure, but I do know the amount of people tested jumped massively today. From like 139k daily to over 240k.
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:38 pm to
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it's a different method of measuring testing capacity.



Why is Portugal darker blue?
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:40 pm to
Why does nate bronze trust China’s numbers
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:41 pm to
I’m not sure.

Portugal is a meaningless nation though to I really don’t care.
Posted by flyAU
Member since Dec 2010
24900 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:41 pm to
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How do those compare to Truly’s or White Claw’s?



Wife likes Truly's since they are sweeter. I like the Corona's and feel bad for the company tbh. I havent had White Claws enough to tell but think they are more on par with Corona.

Still don't understand the graph.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:43 pm to
Nate Platinum!
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:43 pm to
What exactly is the significance of testing when practically everyone is being told "yeah you got it so go home, watch your symptoms and it they get considerably worse then call your doctor to see about getting you admitted". I mean hell, if I go to feeling really bad I'm going to the doctor anyway, virus or not. Now if they said "yeah you got it, here's a pill and you'll be well in three days" then testing would be significant.
Posted by flyAU
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:49 pm to
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What exactly is the significance of testing when practically everyone is being told "yeah you got it so go home, watch your symptoms and it they get considerably worse then call your doctor to see about getting you admitted". I mean hell, if I go to feeling really bad I'm going to the doctor anyway, virus or not. Now if they said "yeah you got it, here's a pill and you'll be well in three days" then testing would be significant.



Need additional fear.

'Go home homesicktiger you're sick"
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:23 pm to
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What the graph shows is "estimated range of symptomatic cases reported" or how many of the actual cases in a country have truly been identified.

The way this is calculated, they assume a global CFR, then they calculate nCFR and cCFR for a given country, then use global CFR to estimate the under reporting of cases. The closer a countries current cCFR is to the estimated global CFR the closer the country is to "accurately identifying" their current case load.



One interesting thing with this technique, as the SK nCFR has risen, using the cCFR for SK has resulted in less confidence that SK has a handle on their total cases. A couple of weeks ago, it was estimated that SK had identified about 90% of their cases but that number has really dropped off.


Here is the latest testing per 100,000

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:33 pm to
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but carry on that we are doing "the worst job"
We've done an AWESOME job going from zero testing capacity to where we are today. Very, very quick. The problem is we started very, very late. Thank CDC and FDA for that.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:51 pm to
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Nate Silver
@NateSilver538

To take one salient example, per these estimates, the UK probably has about 2x as many infections per capita as the US, even though the US has more *reported cases* per capita.


Yea, people have had a blind spot for this the whole time. The number of infections is a bullshite stat, because testing is not done evenly.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24837 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:53 pm to
Well what do you know, we’re doing the most testing per 100K of any other country with 100M+ people. No wonder we have by far the most cases. If only all the Karens on FB saw this and used common sense.
Posted by PrinceVegeta
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 11:03 pm to
Isn’t Nate Silver the dingdong that said Hillary Clinton would win the election soundly. Why are we trusting anything he says.



This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 11:04 pm
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
15069 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 11:04 pm to
Huh, how about that
Posted by Dustydubs
Member since Mar 2020
491 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 11:06 pm to
We all focus on “testing” which has done very little to even slightly slow the spread but do nothing on “prevention” like wearing masks to slow the spread.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 11:12 pm to
We started doing a better job than the rest of the world a week or two ago
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