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re: My Pillow Guy Talk

Posted on 8/6/21 at 7:46 am to
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6611 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 7:46 am to
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Also a guy doing infomercials for pillows isn't going to have access to information that nobody had been able to find ?


Lindell is well known and liked within Patriot circles. Of course you would not know anything about that.

The other thing is, there were predictions that this election might be stollen for months. Given that, is it so far fetched to assume that some entity or network of people went to extreme lengths to document the steal?

As far as the weird spectical of an infomercial pillow inventor taking the lead on this, in an era when attorney generals cower in the face of tyranny and joint chief generals write threatening letters to the people, I take my hero's where I can get them. After all, it is a strange world and it took a 16 year old girl to turn the Hundred Year's War Around.

This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 7:48 am
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6964 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 7:51 am to
When data is transmitted across networks it is broken into packets. The packets have the data in them, as well as a host of other information such as source and destination IP's. Curious what part of the packets he's looking at. If he's seeing traffic to change data, if he's seeing IP's that are curious, or if the data within the packets conflict with data logged in databases or log files.

One transaction can have a whole lot of packets to it because it's broken down on size if I recall correctly.

Hope he delivers what we all seek.

Also curious what his technical background is. As Boozie eluded to, reviewing packets is not the easiest thing in the world. It's not uber technical if you know what you're looking for but weeding through the data can be quite cumbersome.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 7:53 am
Posted by damnstrongfan
St. George, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2009
2401 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:04 am to
I believe he has the goods. But even if the evidence is irrefutable beyond the shadow of a doubt it won't matter because no judge will have the courage to hear it.
Que the broom and rug.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35125 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:14 am to
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Lindell is well known and liked within Patriot circles. Of course you would not know anything about that.

The other thing is, there were predictions that this election might be stollen for months. Given that, is it so far fetched to assume that some entity or network of people went to extreme lengths to document the steal?

As far as the weird spectical of an infomercial pillow inventor taking the lead on this, in an era when attorney generals cower in the face of tyranny and joint chief generals write threatening letters to the people, I take my hero's where I can get them. After all, it is a strange world and it took a 16 year old girl to turn the Hundred Year's War Around.

Hear hear!

In my mind, the easier and less potentially damaging path for Lindell to have taken would've been to stay out of it, most especially to this extent. But instead, he's risked the wellbeing of his business as well as risk to his personal safety and the safety of his loved ones. I fully believe he is pursuing a matter here that he genuinely believes in, 100%. Agree with him or not, honest folks have to admit that he took a real risk on something he truly believes in.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51559 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:14 am to
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Lindell is well known and liked within Patriot circles

Well yeah because he spouts stupid shite that they agree with
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were predictions that this election might be stollen for months.

Yeah form crazies like in every election
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so far fetched to assume that some entity or network of people went to extreme lengths to document the steal?

When there has been no evidence? Yes
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take my hero's where I can get them

Aka you want your biases confirmed and you don't care where or who it comes from
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16 year old girl to turn the Hundred Year's War Around.

Not even remotely comparable

You know what this massive fallout of the GE has been? It's the absolute refusal for people to admit they are wrong. Their minds simply refuse to accept that they man they voted for loss. Because for four years they built it up in their minds that he was unstoppable and that this belief was shared by the majority. Until the election happened and reality smacked them in the face. Maybe one day they'll wake up and realize that they were wrong and there's a reason why the right has only won one popular vote since 1992
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13098 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:16 am to
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At this point nothing would be shocking.


It does seem like we are living a simulation.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26328 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:24 am to
The problem we face is that people are waiting for a smoking gun thinking that will matter. We already have multiple smoking guns. Yet here we are waiting for something we already have.

That said, I damn sure hope A ANOTHER smoking gun is produced.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3067 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:42 am to
Dude is a former crack addict (apparently a pretty bad one) turned pillow salesman who hit it big. It’s pretty clear what his aim his. He goes to bat for Trump and backs the election was stolen cause. Pretends he somehow received “packets” showing that China rigged the election. He hops on every conservative media outlet claiming he has the goods. No one really knows what the hell is talking about, but believes or wants to believe because of confirmation bias.

He is looking to run for some sort of office in the future. It’s all a political game to gain support and future votes. He’s not a patriot, he’s a businessman looking for the next money maker.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 8:56 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78173 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:45 am to
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 he's insane
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
5617 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:46 am to
Nobody has been able to disprove Lindell yet. The guy has the goods.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3067 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:48 am to
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Nobody has been able to disprove Lindell yet. The guy has the goods.
I actually have intel that shows Trump stole the 2016 election with help from China. Nobody had disproved it yet. I have the goods.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 8:51 am
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9391 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:50 am to
You can not like the guy for whatever political reason, but he has a great story regardless, and one that many are just flat jealous of.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35125 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:59 am to
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I actually have intel that shows Trump stole the 2016 election with help from China. No had disproved it yet. I have the goods

That's actually a thing that many people believe to this day. Except switch out Russia for China. So the intel community actually believed Trump and Russia colluded to steal the 2016 election for Trump. They were even allowed to conduct a massive, official investigation, unlike the way the other side was treated with their/our suspicions and allegations. The Trump side didn't get a multi-year, multi-million dollar official investigation.

Anyhow, despite the Left's sweet setup in their investigation, and despite some naughty activity by the aforementioned intel community, they STILL couldn't come up with anything to stick against Trump. I definitely believe that if the Trump side had all the advantages and benefits the Left had in the Mueller investigation, the Trump side would make stuff stick.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6611 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:01 am to
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Dude is a former crack addict (apparently a pretty bad one) turned pillow salesman who hit it big. It’s pretty clear what his aim his. He goes to bat for Trump and backs the election was stolen cause. Pretends he somehow received “packets” showing that China rigged the election. He hops on every conservative media outlet claiming he has the goods. No one really knows what the hell is talking about, but believes or wants to believe because of confirmation bias.

He is looking to run for some sort office in the future. It’s all a political game to gain support and future votes. He’s not a patriot, he’s a businessman looking for the next money maker.


Everyone always claims that anyone who fights against the grain of this CORRUPT system has bad intentions.

Oh, the irony in that.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3067 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:06 am to
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That's actually a thing that many people believe to this day. Except switch out Russia for China. So the intel community actually believed Trump and Russia colluded to steal the 2016 election for Trump. They were even allowed to conduct a massive, official investigation, unlike the way the other side was treated with their/our suspicions and allegations. The Trump side didn't get a multi-year, multi-million dollar official investigation. Anyhow, despite the Left's sweet setup in their investigation, and despite some naughty activity by the aforementioned intel community, they STILL couldn't come up with anything to stick against Trump. I definitely believe that if the Trump side had all the advantages and benefits the Left had in the Mueller investigation, the Trump side would make stuff stick.
No, my intel is different and it’s real. No one has disproved it.

(Clearly I am just making the point that anybody can claim they have/know something and state no one has disproved it)
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3067 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:10 am to
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Everyone always claims that anyone who fights against the grain of this CORRUPT system has bad intentions. Oh, the irony in that.
Oh, my sweet summer child.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37072 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:11 am to
Somehow he would have to prove that the packets were sent from one IP to the public IP of an election center. The packets would have some routing info but he would have to prove that the packets weren't something that someone just made up. I can send data from one computer to another with public voter info in it, then change the IP addresses in the packets I capture.

Of course any of that can be debunked if a single voter in his "packets" comes forward and says they voted. So I expect Lindell will "black out" the identifiable info in some way.

More importantly he would have to prove that there was some program at the election center that accepted the packets and did something with them. I can't see any way he could even touch that.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35125 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:16 am to
I get it. Personally, I don't think the many various election challenges were given a fair opportunity to develop, as most other investigations and lawsuits are allowed. Typically, in the case of a lawsuit, allegations are made in the opening Petition, a relatively light level of scrutiny is given on the front end as to whether there's a viable claim upon which to proceed, then at that point the matter is opened up to mutual discovery. It's during that discovery phase that many if not most cases are made in terms of developing the evidence necessary to carry the relevant burden of proof. That "typical" process was cut off at the pass in a most unusual way. Who knows what could have more fully developed....in all likelihood, some pretty significant stuff would have.

I guess I'm getting off into the weeds there though.
Posted by Cajun Tiger 4
Member since May 2018
418 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:16 am to
He is definitely betting his business! He is a patriot!
Posted by CA Jones
Member since Jan 2021
296 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:19 am to
Dittos. Very well said.
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