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re: MTG: Withholding these treatments is murder, and I believe the government is responsible!

Posted on 1/9/22 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 3:13 pm to
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Even a dummy like me knows this means the studies they looked at didn’t give them enough info to decide either way.


A dummy like you should realize that this says there is insufficient evidence that ivermectin is effective at treating covid-19 in any context. We generally don't want to prescribe drugs to patients when we're unclear if the drug will help, and if it's safe to do so - even if it hurts right wing feelings.

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Overall, the reliable evidence available does not support the use of ivermectin for treatment or prevention of COVID-19 outside of well-designed randomized trials.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 3:14 pm to
Yet several countries and the nfl are using it
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59473 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 3:14 pm to
What are the negative side effects of ivermectin? Has it been safely administered to humans in the past? For what? Posting a 7 month old study that just canvased other studies and came to no conclusion either way is not a compelling argument in my opinion.

I am triple vaxxed and have not taken ivermectin. So I don’t have a real dog in This hunt. I just think it is interesting the arguments people think are compelling.
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 3:18 pm
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27202 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 3:52 pm to
For the most part cv19 is not deadly. Most of the people that cv19 only died because many doctors are stupid. The put people on vents well before they sick person required it. This directly resulted in many tens of thousands of deaths that did not need to die.

Thank the lord that now this practice is being curtailed.

They refuse / reject the use of a whole host of effective medicines. Directly allowing the virus to run its course uninhibited.

They sent people home told to come back if it gets worse. So you go back AFTER the medicines are past the window of being effective.

About the only medicine they did use was Remdesivir. A drug with trials so horribly ineffective that it was only approved due to corruption.

By far the crappy medical community is directly responsible for killing far far more than they have saved.

Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 3:56 pm to
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A dummy like you should realize that this says there is insufficient evidence that ivermectin is effective at treating covid-19 in any context. We generally don't want to prescribe drugs to patients when we're unclear if the drug will help, and if it's safe to do so - even if it hurts right wing feelings.


Nearly every state in the union including California has right to try laws...........something that liberals used to be all in support of.

Everyone on this board is old enough to remember when the left hated big pharma and didn't trust the CDC.

Your collective turnaround is something to behold.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:07 pm to
You don’t even need right to try.

Ivermectin is an FDA-approved drug. So doctors can write it off label as much as they would like. It’s just the Big Medicine cabal that is trying to gum up the works.
Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:11 pm to
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You don’t even need right to try.

Ivermectin is an FDA-approved drug. So doctors can write it off label as much as they would like. It’s just the Big Medicine cabal that is trying to gum up the works.

Yup

Something liberals would have been pissed as shite about not that long ago
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21926 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44315 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

there is insufficient evidence that ivermectin is effective at treating covid-19 in any context.


Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55768 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 5:07 pm to
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They did. Clinical trials were done with Ivermectin, HCQ, Zinc, antibiotics, etc, etc. All were ineffective. Vaccines were developed and tested and proven effective. Numerous other treatments were developed, tested, and proven effective.



You may be dumber than CelticCuck….the studies that you cite are probably the same ones Dr Malone and Dr McCullough destroyed by noting that HCQ and Ivermectin were given to patients in the latter stages of the infection…..oops…too late. How convenient!
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55768 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:31 pm to
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Yet several countries and the nfl are using it


I guarantee a shite load of Swamp congressional members have a ready supply of HCQ, Ivermectin, various steroids and monoclonal antibodies ready for their personal use…..whilst they impede the use to street level Americans.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:51 pm to
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There are 7500 studies in that site. Which ones, specifically, did you rely upon to make the claims you did?
If you are too stupid to filter on ivermectin, HCQ, etc, how the hell are you going to read the studies?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44315 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:02 pm to
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If you are too stupid to filter on ivermectin, HCQ, etc, how the hell are you going to read the studies?


Nice deflection. Typical leftist move...be a condescending douche bag while avoiding putting forth an answer.

For example:

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“We have to address the fact that we gotta deal with the fact that folks are paying for gas, paying for groceries and need solutions to it,” Harris began.

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She continued, “Short-term solution includes what we need to do around the supply chain, right? So we went to the ports of Los Angeles, Long Beach; Savanah, Georgia, and said, ‘Hey guys, no more five days a week, eight hours a day. Twenty-four seven let’s move the products because people need their products, they need what they need.” “We’re dealing with it in terms of the long term, and that’s about what we need to pass Build Back Better. It strengthens our economy,” she added.


Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11394 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:00 am to
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99% survival rate. You don’t need these medicines to survive Covid, your immune system is enough.


Our freedom isn't based on need. Or big pharma's/politicians' bank accounts.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:53 am to
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They did. Clinical trials were done with Ivermectin, HCQ, Zinc, antibiotics, etc, etc. All were ineffective. Vaccines were developed and tested and proven effective. Numerous other treatments were developed, tested, and proven effective.


Remember yesterday when you said you thought Darius days should’ve transferred? Your stupidity knows no bounds.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:55 am to
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We generally don't want to prescribe drugs to patients when we're unclear if the drug will help, and if it's safe to do so


Tell us about the covid vaccines.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98258 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:21 am to
The TJ Covid Power pack is that, prednisona (hcq) a zpak, b12 shot, inhaler and a few other items

Costs like 50
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477229 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:39 am to
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We generally don't want to prescribe drugs to patients when we're unclear if the drug will help,

If the drug is safe (which HCQ and ivermectin are), why does it matter? Even a placebo effect would be positive.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19570 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:43 am to
Do you ever tire of being the most stupid mthr fkr on TD?
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70336 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:50 am to
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Why is Marjorie T(wat) Green getting so worked up over the common cold


She isn't at all.

She is getting worked up over the communists leaders
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