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re: More obstruction of justice by Trump

Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:34 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:34 am to
quote:

President Trump asked two of the nation’s top intelligence officials in March to help him push back against an FBI investigation
As he damn well should have. The conversation goes like this.

Comey: Mr President, you are not under investigation.
POTUS: Fine. Please state that publicly for the good of national unity.
Comey: No.

Congress: Mr. Comey, is there any evidence of collusion?
Comey: I cannot comment on that.
Congress: Mr. Comey, is the POTUS under investigation?
Comey: I cannot comment on that.

So Trump approaches two other IC Directors and asks them to publicly acknowledge what they already know, there is no investigation of the POTUS at this time.

So which is the obstruction?
Comey's continued allowance of false innuendo, or Trump's effort to GET THE FACTS OUT in the open.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:35 am to
wrong board. this one is for Pepe and ostriches.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:35 am to
That OP thinks this was obstruction signifies derangement
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 11:43 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154901 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:36 am to
quote:

wrong board. this one is for Pepe and ostriches.


d want, Hillary lost. Melt on.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30642 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:40 am to
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How about when Obama and Hillary asked all of our nation's intelligence agencies to illegally spy on Trump?


Or have the IRS place tax processing on hold for conservative organizations.

Crazy stuff, right?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30642 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:42 am to
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It's an LOL day when u can get multiple Trumpkins to defend multiple obstruction of justice charges.


What charges?

And why do you now care about this when you didn't in the previous administration?

So many posters on this board are so completely full of shite. It's embarrassing reading posts. From both sides, but you liberals just seem more full of shite.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46402 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:43 am to
I see you are still not tired of looking like a complete hack.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21074 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:53 am to
quote:


As he damn well should have. The conversation goes like this.

Comey: Mr President, you are not under investigation.
POTUS: Fine. Please state that publicly for the good of national unity.
Comey: No.

Congress: Mr. Comey, is there any evidence of collusion?
Comey: I cannot comment on that.
Congress: Mr. Comey, is the POTUS under investigation?
Comey: I cannot comment on that.

So Trump approaches two other IC Directors and asks them to publicly acknowledge what they already know, there is no investigation of the POTUS at this time.

So which is the obstruction?
Comey's continued allowance of false innuendo, or Trump's effort to GET THE FACTS OUT in the open.


Along those lines, what if Trump was briefed that Comey had produced no evidence of collusion and was wasting agency resources on a wild goose chase for political reasons?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36079 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:56 am to
Juice........Juice......Juice........Juice.....Juice.

Pushback against an investigation is not an obstruction of justice . If the FBI were coming at me, I am well within my rights to pushback against them....refuse to speak to them, make fun of them, have my surrogates help me to make their lives as hard as possible.

I'm not allowed to lie or ignore a lawful subpoena, but if I want to send out my guys to try and set the FBI straight in terms of the narrative, I'm allowed to do it. It's not a one way street

Thus far nothing concrete has even leaked out and you gotta know that in something like this , if there was anything of real import, MSNBC, Newsweek, Time and CNN would be leaking the shite out of it

Not that I'm a huge Trump fan , but I truly dislike the federal government and what the FBI and other police agencies can do to you..... it can be ugly even for those that did nothing wrong....see Scooter Libby ending up being prosecuted for a penny ante process crime when Fitzgerald knew from Day 1 that Richard Armitage was the guy who outed Plame
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 11:57 am
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30642 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

You mean an allegation within a story anchored around a single anonymous source? The kind you and others are using to discredit the OP?


The computers and servers the Clinton team destroyed were subpoenaed right? Has Trump destroyed anything after it was subpoenaed to obstruct an investigation?

Any sane person knows that equipment was destroyed to hide evidence. Why else do it?
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31184 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

President Trump asked two of the nation’s top intelligence officials in March to help him push back against an FBI investigation into possible coordination between his campaign and the Russian government, according to current and former officials.


comey testified under oath that this didn't happen
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:23 pm to
Comey testified that the DOJ never pressured the FBI to end an investigation. That has nothing to do with the paragraph you quoted.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38025 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:26 pm to
Is today a day that Trumpkins love anonymous sources or hate them? I can't keep up.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 1:24 pm to
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Is today a day that Trumpkins love anonymous sources or hate them? I can't keep up.


Here. I'll answer this for you for all time.

Anonymous sources should always be considered problematic for the following obvious reasons.

1)When you hear phrases like "an X official" or, "a senior official said" or any variation, you have no way of knowing exactly how important said source actually is. You don't even know if said source is a solid place to go for the information in question

2)Characterization of source quote is 100% that of the journalist doing the writing. For example. If I tell a journalist that I hear Joe saying that Jane could be helpful in getting something passed........journalist can refer to that as "bragging". Of course, such language has more to do with the journalist than with the information.

3)ALL decent sized agencies on the planet have people who are unhappy with their bosses. With an anonymous source, we have zero way of learning if the source is to be considered reliable.

4)We also have zero way of knowing if the journalist did their due diligence in checking the validity of the information they received.

With all the above in mind, we are left to look at the organizations who are using said anonymous sources. Well. OK. If you can look at the scene on the night of the election and say that you believe those same people are being 100% professional in their approach to vetting anonymous sources, I'm going to have to call you a fricking moron.

So. Bottom line. To answer your question. In today's highly partisan environment. ALL anonymous sources should be held to a VERY skeptical eye.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:51 am to
Lol
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32515 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:54 am to
Solid bump
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41100 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:55 am to
Tangerine looking like a fool in this thread as well.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Is today a day that Trumpkins love anonymous sources or hate them? I can't keep up.


lol
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76997 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:00 pm to
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JuiceTerry



Your daily failures are worth coming back to witness on a regular basis.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:01 pm to
I love that defending yourself from an accusation became a crime in the minds of liberals both during the Trump and Kavanaugh witch hunts.
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